Which 4 Jaw D1-5 chuck for chambering?

[LVLAaron]

Just placed an order with Precision Matthews for a lathe and a bunch of accessories.

The only obvious (to me) thing I wasn't able to get was a 4 jaw chuck.

Looking for the advice of the experienced what I should be looking to procure.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

A 6jaw set tru. Graduate from the 4jaw

 

[LVLAaron]

A 6jaw set tru. Graduate from the 4jaw

I'm graduating from a hobby lathe that's older than I am.

My understanding of a 6 jaw set true - 6 jaw scroll mechanism, and then it's got 4 set screws to adjust for runout... correct?

 

[carlsbad]

Make a spider.

 

[sdean]

Make a spider.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I'm graduating from a hobby lathe that's older than I am.

My understanding of a 6 jaw set true - 6 jaw scroll mechanism, and then it's got 4 set screws to adjust for runout... correct?

Yes. You dont loosen each jaw to move it so the part stays tight. Very easy to use

 

[jkohler]

If your just needing a four jaw chuck for regular turning needs not chambering barrels Gator chucks aren’t than bad for the money. But a inboard spider is they way to go for barrel work.

 

[Ggmac]

i thought they were std equipment and included .ties must of changed thigs . What make is your old lathe ?

 

[butchlambert]

i thought they were std equipment and included .ties must of changed thigs . What make is your old lathe ?

Did you not get my email or PM?

 

[carlsbad]

If your just needing a four jaw chuck for regular turning needs not chambering barrels Gator chucks aren’t than bad for the money. But a inboard spider is they way to go for barrel work.

I bought a Gator as an extra 4 jaw and like it. but not for barreling.

 

[LVLAaron]

i thought they were std equipment and included .ties must of changed thigs . What make is your old lathe ?

It comes with a 3 jaw - 4 jaw is out of stock and not back-orderable.

 

[jkohler]

look on eBay for one. I got my Gator chuck on there for a good deal.

 

[jkohler]

For the money this spider is hard to pass up.

Aluminum Spider Plate - 5" Diameter - Grizzly Industrial, Inc.

Made specially for gunsmithing operations, particularly when chambering barrels, these spider plates are used so that shorter barrels can be chambered through the headstock of the lathe. The brass tipped screws prevent damage to the barrels and allow for fine adjustments very similar to a 4-jaw...

www.grizzly.com

 

[gunnermhr]

I like the 6 jaw like Dusty mentioned, call Matt at Precision Matthew's and he'll get you good pricing on one

 

[xr650rRider]

For the money this spider is hard to pass up.

Aluminum Spider Plate - 5" Diameter - Grizzly Industrial, Inc.

Made specially for gunsmithing operations, particularly when chambering barrels, these spider plates are used so that shorter barrels can be chambered through the headstock of the lathe. The brass tipped screws prevent damage to the barrels and allow for fine adjustments very similar to a 4-jaw...

www.grizzly.com

I used one and mounted to D1-4 backplate for my PM-1340GT. Once mounted, you can turn OD, bore ID and get it perfectly true. Tig welded a 5/16 bearing to end of 3/8-24 set screw. 5/8" OD x 1/4" thick aluminum pad with a recess for bearing, allows it to swivel. Works well and pretty cheap inboard spider.

I still use the 4 jaw mine came with for other things though and wouldn't want to be without it.

 

[tobnpr]

My understanding of a 6 jaw set true - 6 jaw scroll mechanism, and then it's got 4 set screws to adjust for runout... correct?

Yep. 6 jaw is nice to have (I have a 6" one, as well as an 8", 3 jaw) as it will grip thin wall materials better without crushing. I don't know that I see an advantage to one over a 3 jaw for chambering, but I might be missing something.

"Assuming" you're chambering through the headstock, consider using an inboard spider if your budget allows. You certainly need a chuck, but a spider allows you to work closer to the headstock than you can with a chuck.

The closer you can work to the end of the spindle the better off you are.

If budget is a factor- I'd second getting a QUALITY 6 jaw set-tru to start as it'll serve for everything other than chambering as well. They ain't cheap...I was really patient, and took several months- but I scored both of mine off Fleabay at a fraction of new. You need to be really careful if you go the used route though- a worn chuck is nothing but a paperweight, and there's a lot of paperweights for sale there.

Plenty of threads here- including one running now- on the different methods of workholding to chamber.
Everything from a heavy gauge copper wire in the chuck jaws, to brass-tipped screws and other type "tips" in a spider.

 

[butchlambert]

I let Alan Warner have my new Bison 6 jaw Tru Adj. For chambering I use a cathead on either side of the headstock, I have a Royal collet set up, a quality 3 jaw, and 4 jaw. These serves my purpose, but others have other needs.

 

[xr650rRider]

One thing about an independent 4 jaw is you can hold irregular shaped pieces. Things aren't always round or symmetric that you need to turn.

 

[LVLAaron]

One thing about an independent 4 jaw is you can hold irregular shaped pieces. Things aren't always round or symmetric that you need to turn.

Exactly. I will be using the lathe for other activities and figured a quality 4 jaw would be the most versatile

 

[tac284]

I picked up a Bison 10” D1-6 4 jaw on EBay from Industry Recycles. I wasn’t in a big hurry so I watched for quite awhile until I found a pretty good deal. It was $436 + $60 shipping, so $500 which is around half price. It provided useful about a week after I bought it.