300 Norma Improved 35 degree

[GlennK]

OH BOY!!!

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The f@#k that bow and arrow doing on the wall!? Haha

 

[Bc'z]

The f@#k that bow and arrow doing on the wall!? Haha

Bow hunters have long shafts and go deeper in the bush.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

In Montana we hunt any which way we can. Lol.

I saw a picture of a certain person at the local Archery shop. Seems he used to be a competitive archer as well

 

[tom]

Fire formed some to break in the big girl today. Will gather up some photos and data later.

Tom

 

[tom]

I loaded 225 elds jammed 15 and 89 grains of rl33 to form the first 20 cases today. Measuring once home here this evening, I'll probably drop a bit more powder. They were 2,860 +- and I did swing over and put 3 on paper at 871 yards towards the end of the session.






Tom

 

[Bc'z]

Looks like a inch and a half of vertical in that load, nice!
Also looks rather chilly there.
I see why folks like Arizona

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Great shooting as usual

That’s a pretty high tech bench weight you made there. Should think about selling them. Lol

 

[Ledd Slinger]

What did you think about the IOR Terminator glass and performance.

 

[Ranger007]

Just picked up my 1st IORV RECON. Needs a stick.

 

[tom]

What did you think about the IOR Terminator glass and performance.

I like it pretty well. It's similar to most HD stuff these days, in that she gets a bit sensitive to weird air. Like the heat near the vehicle on a cold day, you just power down a bit, around 30-35 and it goes away. It's solid as all heck that's for sure when it comes to mechanical stuff. I shot good with it since it moved onto the rifle, so I can't complain to much. And it has the travel to do what I need without marrying it to "only" 2,000 yards. About the only 40+ power optic with 100ish moa i think?

Tom

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I like it pretty well. It's similar to most HD stuff these days, in that she gets a bit sensitive to weird air. Like the heat near the vehicle on a cold day, you just power down a bit, around 30-35 and it goes away. It's solid as all heck that's for sure when it comes to mechanical stuff. I shot good with it since it moved onto the rifle, so I can't complain to much. And it has the travel to do what I need without marrying it to "only" 2,000 yards. About the only 40+ power optic with 100ish moa i think?

Tom

Sounds like it’s the right tool for the job.
The Trijicon or Delta 5-50x56 are the only other really high power optics with 100 MOA of elevation that I know of.

But the Delta 5-50x I had with only a 34mm tube and 100 MOA, the resolution would start to degrade significantly on higher mag levels when getting into the last 20% or so of adjustment range in either direction. Just too much range for that small of a tube and a huge 10x mag range.

 

[tom]

Some 250s showed up tonight. Plan to tune 250 and 230 a tips along with 245 and 230 bergers. Something out of that mess should stand out when we take them to 2,075.

Tom

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Some 250s showed up tonight. Plan to tune 250 and 230 a tips along with 245 and 230 bergers. Something out of that mess should stand out when we take them to 2,075.

Tom

I got $5 on Berger for the win

 

[CBlack]

Sounds like it’s the right tool for the job.
The Trijicon or Delta 5-50x56 are the only other really high power optics with 100 MOA of elevation that I know of.

But the Delta 5-50x I had with only a 34mm tube and 100 MOA, the resolution would start to degrade significantly on higher mag levels when getting into the last 20% or so of adjustment range in either direction. Just too much range for that small of a tube and a huge 10x mag range.

Why not an Ivey mount or similar?

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Why not an Ivey mount or similar?

Those are definitely ideal for ELR to maintain optical clarity and resolution. But what Tom’s saying is that a scope with 100 MOA can get him to 2K without the aid of a $700 mount like the Ivey or a fixed 50 MOA rail and still be able to turn around and dial in a much shorter range shot. It’s nice having an optic that doesn’t require big fixed rails or assistance from a very expensive mount to get the job done. Extra moving parts scare benchrest shooters. Lol

 

[CBlack]

Those are definitely ideal for ELR to maintain optical clarity and resolution. But what Tom’s saying is that a scope with 100 MOA can get him to 2K without the aid of a $700 mount like the Ivey or a fixed 50 MOA rail and still be able to turn around and dial in a much shorter range shot. It’s nice having an optic that doesn’t require big fixed rails or assistance from a very expensive mount to get the job done

Gotcha. My Kahles 624 can get my .300 NM to 2000 but it's maxed out. Was wondering that. Thanks!

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Gotcha. My Kahles 624 can get my .300 NM to 2000 but it's maxed out. Was wondering that. Thanks!

the other point Tom was making is that there’s not many scopes with super high magnification that can do it. Only two scopes with high 40x magnification or more that I know are capable of doing it.

 

[tom]

I'm not afraid of fixed moa rails, but it's tougher to take one out and get on target if you can't just boresight the darn thing to begin with. Rails and rings that adjust, I've put on my scope checker with proven scopes. And my preference is to stick with fixed mounts lol. Now there are some other products out there that I've never had my hands on, but they're expensive and I'm cheap. Remember the 300 I'm beginning to work on is a "one trick pony" for fixed distance group/score matches.

Tom

 

[GlennK]

I'm not afraid of fixed moa rails, but it's tougher to take one out and get on target if you can't just boresight the darn thing to begin with. Rails and rings that adjust, I've put on my scope checker with proven scopes. And my preference is to stick with fixed mounts lol. Now there are some other products out there that I've never had my hands on, but they're expensive and I'm cheap. Remember the 300 I'm beginning to work on is a "one trick pony" for fixed distance group/score matches.

Tom

I like trick ponies. This is something interesting to me.

 

[tom]

I like trick ponies. This is something interesting to me.

I didn't think you people came out until after dark!