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Shooters World Powders

Wayne,
Too hard to get at times. Years ago when it dried up I learned to move on. Between f class and PRS shooting my scores and groups haven't suffered any. I'm like others, when a new barrel goes on all the powder to burn that barrel out is purchased at one time. I used to shoot Varget in everything, not anymore.
 
SO71 is a Lovex powder and I read on the site a few years back that it is the exact same powder as Accurate 3100, and Lovex made it for Accurate. Accurate tells that 3100 was made for them but that the factory had raised the price so much that they could no longer afford to import it. Accurate 3100 was pixie dust for a 25-06 with heavy bullets. It is about the same burn rate as h4831.
Another trip down memory lane. As i remember the first time I saw 3100 it was MR3100. It came in two pound white bottles and was imported from Israel.
 
Actually I like to use Shooters World powder and that's pretty much all I'm going to say if you don't like the length of the powder this little tool works great.
 

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Another trip down memory lane. As i remember the first time I saw 3100 it was MR3100. It came in two pound white bottles and was imported from Israel.

Israeli sourced Accurate Arms powders predated the Explosia / Lovex (Czech-origin) ones, taking us back to sometime in the 1980s.

MR3100 had a reputation for being ballistically near identical to IMR-4831 and use of 4831 data being safe. Moreover it came without any lot numbers as there was only one (huge) lot imported into the the US by the old Accurate Arms Co. This version was tested in Handloader magazine #92 (year?) by Bob Hagel and its very close similarity to IMR-4831 confirmed.

Gary Sitton gave this background when he retested 3100, now AAC-3100, 10 years later and published in Handloader (issue? Year?) This is in Wolfe Publishing's Propellant Profiles 6th edition (the collected powder tests of Handloader 1966-2008). This 3100 version, which I'm 99% certain will be the Explosia / Lovex version was very different to IMR-4831 producing MVs nearly 10% lower in 243 Win, 280 Rem and 338 Win Mag. It was obviously slower burning (and according to QuickLOAD has less energy too).

We still have Czech Lovex SO-71 (as per AAC-3100) in the UK. My experience is close to that of Gary Sitton's. It can be a useful slow burner for large over bore capacity cartridges such a 6.5-284, but in many applications that see use by the 4350s and 4831s, you can't get enough SO-71 into the case to obtain full pressures and MVs. That's not to say results otherwise are poor as it seems to be a very tolerant propellant that works happily with low to medium pressures. For instance, I use this powder to produce very consistent and accurate loads in 7X57mm that match the original 1890s military loading - the Hornady 175gn RNSP vice the original 173 RNFMJ at 2,300 fps from a 29.3-inch barrel Chilean M1895 long infantry rifle.

When Western Powders bought the old Accurate Arms, the new management ditched Explosia products and replaced them with similarly performing ones from General Dynamics, St. Marks Powder Co. FLA or Eurenco P B Clermont in Belgium (ball powders) and General Dynamics Valleyfield, Quebec Province, Canada (extruded grades and the makers of most IMR modern powders for Hodgdon). Western either only offered a 'new' 3100 briefly, or more likely not at all, as there was no close equivalent available from its new sources. Last time I looked Shooters World didn't import this grade, but who knows it still do it. Nevertheless, I suspect not as SO-71 doesn't really have that many uses where it really shines, at least not in today's market where high MVs are regarded as essential.
 
Don,
Thank you I’ll do some research and order some I’m working up a load for my 7-08 with 168s so maybe some 062 or precision?
Wayne

You'll likely do better in 7-08 with SW Long Rifle (Lovex SO-65) with this bullet weight. Precision will certainly work but is a tad fast burning. Precision (Lovex SO-62) was AAC-4064 until maybe 15 years ago when Western Powders bought the Accurate Arms Co. and changed its suppliers also renaming it Accurate-4064. Czech AAC-4064 / SO-62 does just what the name says, ie is very close to the good old traditional IMR-4064 and is as flexible, so there are scores of applications.

Long Rifle / SO-65 is a bit slower burning falling between 4064 and the 4350s. I use it in my long-throat 7mm-08 F rifle with the 150gn Scenar-L as a short-range load. In 'quiet conditions' I've had groups that aren't that far off bench-rest standards at a modest MV around 2,830 fps. SW recommends it for use in 6.5mm Creedmoor and similar which I could well accept. I'm running a series of tests currently looking for UK-available alternatives to IMR and H4350 using 7mm-08 and the 160gn Sierra TMK. Lovex SO-65 and SO-70 (SW-4350) are among the five grades I've still to test, but with our latest Covid-lockdown ending later this week, should be completed this side of Christmas.

I can't comment on the temperature stability of these single-based extruded propellants as we don't get anything like North American ranges in northern England - extremes of mid 30s to mid 70s across the seasons and nowhere near that in a single day. Nobody I've met here complains about this aspect though.
 
When I couldn't get Varget, I bought a Lb of Precision Rifle (062) and it shot so much better than Varget that I bought 10 Lbs!.
I trickle with a little yellow wonder and do not have loading problems.
 
I picked up a pound of Precision last spring but didn't get to shoot it til this summer, when the daily temps are in the low 90's. I was loading some tests for a 6.5 CM with Berger 130 Hybrids (bare, I usually Moly-coat) and found that I could get sd's of 12-16 and .75 moa at 100 yds at 2860fps. Definitely better than anything I had previously achieved with Varget. Already cooking up some more tests with SMK's and RDF's.
 
Laurie---Thanks for the info on 3100. I have some of its precursor MRP and some of the 3100.

I remember when 5744 was in the white 2 lb jugs, probably still have one left.
 
I tried Precision and Long Rifle in my 22BR and my 6.5x47 and both showed great promise, shooting like my "preferred" powders did when untuned (1 inch at 300 yards). I put them back on the shelf and bought 8# jugs of each to have ready. I need to burn up the IMR powders from the 80s and 90s that I still have first before I start burning the new stuff.
 
I still have 3# of match rifle and out of curiosity due to comparable burn rate, I ran it through GRT for 6br with 107smk and it appears viable. It is a spherical and likely temp sensitive, but the 6br can be fairly forgiving with wide nodes. I may try it out for short range work.
 

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I still have 3# of match rifle and out of curiosity due to comparable burn rate, I ran it through GRT for 6br with 107smk and it appears viable. It is a spherical and likely temp sensitive, but the 6br can be fairly forgiving with wide nodes. I may try it out for short range work.
Try Precision for 6BR. I think you will like it better.
 
SO71 is a Lovex powder and I read on the site a few years back that it is the exact same powder as Accurate 3100, and Lovex made it for Accurate. Accurate tells that 3100 was made for them but that the factory had raised the price so much that they could no longer afford to import it. Accurate 3100 was pixie dust for a 25-06 with heavy bullets. It is about the same burn rate as h4831.
few companies make most of the things we use, branded to the customer with a few tweeks and labels, I work for a brake company we make brakes for 6 different car companies all the same recipe, and pep boys, napa, and a bunch of others
 
You fellow that have been using their 4350 and Precision, how to they compare with other 4350 and Varget ?
And if you went too just one, would it be 4350 or Precision ? This would be for use in the larger cartridges, i.e. Creed's, 243 Win, etc.
 
You fellow that have been using their 4350 and Precision, how to they compare with other 4350 and Varget ?
And if you went too just one, would it be 4350 or Precision ? This would be for use in the larger cartridges, i.e. Creed's, 243 Win, etc.
I think they are very comparable (SW Powders) but just a little bit slower. They shoot very good with good velocity and accuracy. SW Long Rifle will be more comparable to H4350 than SW 4350. I shoot SW4350 in 6XC and really like it. Just put together a .243 Winchester and getting ready to bed it then I will be using Long Rifle or SW4350. LR shot pretty decent in the 6XC also and wasn’t too bad with the 6BR.
 

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