Sad Day for 2A

[dunraven]

The Electoral College should be abolished.

Danny

that's just so wrong. time to do some serious research the us constitution.

 

[dunraven]

eve

Why? Republicans have won the Presidency 3 out of 5 times in the last 20 years. What happened to the vast conspiracy in those elections? With all the hate from democrats, and even republicans (The Lincoln Project), why is it so hard to believe that more people voted against Trump rather than for him?

Spoiler alert: It’s because an election with fraudulent votes can be overturned, whereas an honest election can not. Everybody is hoping for a miracle that will never come. Trump took a giant dump on anyone who didn’t worship him. He alienated allies while cozying up to dictators. (How’s that North Korean Denuclearization going? Kim Jong Un got exactly what he wanted; the appearance of credibility as a world leader. Trump’s art of the deal got him squat.) He pissed on NATO allies; talking sh*t about Montenegro. What the bleep was that? We’re all in NATO together. I’ve deployed with NATO allies from around the world. New Zealand is a tiny country, but they helped out in Afghanistan. The Presidency is not a real estate deal. Trump got himself unelected.

everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if it's born of msm talking points, and wrong.

 

[dunraven]

@Capt45. I disagree. Trump lost not because of his politics or the Republican Party but because of his attitude. Over the past 4 years the nucklehead forced people to DISLIKE him.

no. the left hated him before he was even elected. the, what, 73 million people voted for him out of hate? nice try.

 

[dunraven]

Read my post again. Almost all of the news media have been saying no voter fraud. Hopefully you are like me in that I do not listen to those outlets except a quick check to see what the others are saying.

I do not want to play the word games, all, every, never. The fraud might not be enough to swing the election, but my contention is we have to find a better way to do it.

and do we not remember how outraged the left was that russia may have interfered in the 2016 election? of course when democrats do it on steroids, and are busted, nothing to see.

 

[338 dude]

No shit he's going to be inaugurated on January 20th, Ray Charles can see that. We don't have a chance against those low belly lying cheating stealing fraudulent libtards. They've had this figured out for months on how to steal this election.

Have faith this election will be Overturned

 

[dunraven]

That phrase has been over used and lost its luster in the 80's. Why this election? Every election I hear the same old, this is the most important election of out lifetime. Why is this election more important than the last? I disdain and loathe Hillary more than Biden. Beating her was more important to me.

one of the main reasons is what the left has become: a gang of hate-filled marxists. all you need to see is blm and antifa in the streets to know it.

 

[338 dude]

We vote for electors that vote for us when the electors meet after the popular vote is over. The electors are chosen based on how the popular vote goes. In 26 states, the electors are "bound" to vote that way, but the penalties, if they do not, are minimal. In my opinion, "a few" (relatively speaking) electors are too easily "influenced", as compared to our voting population. We should directly elect the president and vice president.

Danny

I want to like the post above but our votes are too easily manipulated and controlled it seems the electoral college is what has saved us hopefully twice now

 

[338 dude]

Tried to order some... almost must be wet, cause it's all out of stock.

That in it self is a sign of what the people think and are preparing for

 

[rjtfroggy]

Have faith this election will be Overturned

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

 

[timeout]

Tokyo Rose is ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and moving in to FOX.......

.

I see on Newsmax this morning that Morning Joe now has higher ratings than Fox and Friends. I have quit watching Fox entirely. Shameful the way they abandoned President Trump and the loyal viewership. The most upsetting to me was Chris Wallace in debate one and the hiring of Donna Brazille.

 

[justpassinthru]

We desperately need one standardized and accurate method of voting to be used all across the country.

But the Democrats would never allow that.

 

[timeout]

Voter fraud is Voter Fraud no matter who is running, some continue to dismiss it as never happening anywhere ever.

There is a reason Democrats are against voter ID while embracing mass mailing of absentee ballots. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

no. the left hated him before he was even elected. the, what, 73 million people voted for him out of hate? nice try.

And if trump would have gotten 98 million votes he would have barely gotten beat still. All they needed was a few more of those cars to pull up after midnite full of ballots

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

We desperately need one standardized and accurate method of voting to be used all across the country.

But the Democrats would never allow that.

Before misplacing blame you might want to check your copy of the Constitution to find out why there is no national standard for presidential elections, and can't be unless the Constitution is amended.

Article II Section I
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

 

[AICS308]

Why? Republicans have won the Presidency 3 out of 5 times in the last 20 years. What happened to the vast conspiracy in those elections? With all the hate from democrats, and even republicans (The Lincoln Project), why is it so hard to believe that more people voted against Trump rather than for him?

Spoiler alert: It’s because an election with fraudulent votes can be overturned, whereas an honest election can not. Everybody is hoping for a miracle that will never come. Trump took a giant dump on anyone who didn’t worship him. He alienated allies while cozying up to dictators. (How’s that North Korean Denuclearization going? Kim Jong Un got exactly what he wanted; the appearance of credibility as a world leader. Trump’s art of the deal got him squat.) He pissed on NATO allies; talking sh*t about Montenegro. What the bleep was that? We’re all in NATO together. I’ve deployed with NATO allies from around the world. New Zealand is a tiny country, but they helped out in Afghanistan. The Presidency is not a real estate deal. Trump got himself unelected.

Please refer back to post 576 for my opinion of politicians. The date range I referred to includes Bush 2, a republican who in my opinion was the worst president in my lifetime. He was a globalist and did more to destroy this country than any other, the Patriot Act, Iraq,........

 

[AICS308]

Before misplacing blame you might want to check your copy of the Constitution to find out why there is no national standard for presidential elections, and can't be unless the Constitution is amended.

Article II Section I
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

Good explanation but also is the reason the election results from 5 "battleground states" are not valid. The recent changes to the election laws were not voted on by the legislatures but enacted by others in the government.

 

[justpassinthru]

Before misplacing blame you might want to check your copy of the Constitution to find out why there is no national standard for presidential elections, and can't be unless the Constitution is amended.

Article II Section I
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

I said nothing about changing ANYTHING about the number of Electors.

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

Good explanation but also is the reason the election results from 5 "battleground states" are not valid. The recent changes to the election laws were not voted on by the legislatures but enacted by others in the government.

Pennsylvania's extension of identification verification for mail-in ballots arriving after election day has already been overruled by a judge for this reason. The SCOTUS tied 4-4 (ACB not voting) on whether all late-arriving ballots in PA must be thrown out, letting stand the PA Supreme Court ruling that those ballots could be counted. The SCOTUS declined 2 days ago to hear the case again.

PA's certification deadline is 23 November, so we'll know by then whether the late ballot issue will be resolved differently.

Congress could also reject PA's electoral votes when it meets in joint session on 6 January. But as it stands now Biden wins even without PA's electoral votes, so my guess is that the issue won't be addressed before Inauguration Day by the courts or by the Congress.

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

I said nothing about changing ANYTHING about the number of Electors.

You misunderstand the Constitution. Each state sets its own rules for presidential elections. There is not, and cannot be, a national standard for conducting presidential elections imposed on the states by the Congress.

The situation is different for election of Senators and Representatives; see U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 4 Clause 1.

 

[rr2030]

We desperately need one standardized and accurate method of voting to be used all across the country.

Or .......
We can get in the game and harvest more votes than they do. Beat them at their own game.