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For those that don't believe in Voter Fraud:

Pair Charged With Voter Fraud Allegedly Submitted Thousands of Fraudulent Applications on Behalf of Homeless People​

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...cations-on-behalf-of-homeless-people/2464168/

Did you bother to read the criminal complaint? This was for the election of the mayor of Hawthorne, California, not the presidential election. And, in any case, the charges were for fraudulent registration applications, not for fraudulent votes. The dipsh1ts that (allegedly) perpetrated the fraud were caught and will be prosecuted (i.e., the system worked like it's supposed to).

There is probably vote fraud in every election, not to mention simple human error. But in this year's presidential election there isn't any evidence (so far) that fraudulent votes are sufficiently numerous to alter the allocation of electoral votes. Trump's team is entitled to pursue in court every possible allegation of vote fraud. So far they've managed to get a few ballots thrown out in Pennsylvania.

States are certifying their election results now. You can find the deadlines for certification here.
 
Did you bother to read the criminal complaint? This was for the election of the mayor of Hawthorne, California, not the presidential election. And, in any case, the charges were for fraudulent registration applications, not for fraudulent votes. The dipsh1ts that (allegedly) perpetrated the fraud were caught and will be prosecuted (i.e., the system worked like it's supposed to).

There is probably vote fraud in every election, not to mention simple human error. But in this year's presidential election there isn't any evidence (so far) that fraudulent votes are sufficiently numerous to alter the allocation of electoral votes. Trump's team is entitled to pursue in court every possible allegation of vote fraud. So far they've managed to get a few ballots thrown out in Pennsylvania.

States are certifying their election results now. You can find the deadlines for certification here.
Voter fraud is Voter Fraud no matter who is running, some continue to dismiss it as never happening anywhere ever.
 
Cruz’s reportedly hovers around 145.
Mine hovers around there too, but I can be really dumb most of the time! I have nothing against Cruz"s ability and Patriotism, but I agree he is an aquired taste. A bad thing in a popularity contest lilke the presidency. But don't get me wrong, if he makes the show, he can have my vote.

Back to the2A: The Dems have made gun control an all or nothing endevour, the GOP should counter with the same enthusiasm, which I don't see happening. It should be a heavy plank in the Right's platform.
 
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So, you were wrong about the process and timeline, and I was right. I didn't need to watch a video to know that. I can read, and have read, the Constitution.

I (still) have $100 that says Biden will be inaugurated on 20 Jan 2021. Are you going to take the bet, or are you just blowing smoke?
So what happens when neither candidates reach 270 votes?
 
Please provide a link to a quote from anyone who claims that there is no voter fraud, ever, anywhere, anytime.
Easy way out, prove it to me, give me verification. Listen to the news. If you had for the last 4 years you would understand.

Prove to me there wasn't voter fraud other than your, you don't think so.

T2A
 
So what happens when neither candidates reach 270 votes?

You mean "if", not "when", right?

If not enough states certify their elections to give one of the candidates 270 electoral votes, or if neither candidate receives at least 270 electoral votes when the electors meet in their states on 14 December, or if the joint session of Congress decides to throw out enough electoral vote results to prevent either candidate from receiving 270 electoral votes on 6 January, then the election of the President goes to the House of Representatives and the election of the Vice-President goes to the Senate.

But what you claimed is that if neither Trump nor Biden concedes before 14 December, the election of the President goes to the House of Representatives. That's wrong. You probably are one of those suckered in by this video produced by convicted felon/preacher/dumba$$ Shane Vaughn, and clearly you didn't bother to read the Constitution for yourself.

I'm going to make this easy for you. I will wager $100 that all three of the following things happen:

1. Neither Trump nor Biden concedes the election by 14 November December 2020. (Edited)
2. The election of the next President will not go to the House of Representatives.

So, if you are right in claiming that failure of either candidate to concede by 14 Nov throws the election to the House, you win $100.

I'll add the third piece to the trifecta just to give you another way to win:
3. Joe Biden will be inaugurated as President on 20 January 2021.

Are you in for an easy $100, or are you simply wrong?
 
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Prove to me there wasn't voter fraud other than your, you don't think so.

T2A

For pity's sake, read what I wrote in #626:

"There is probably vote fraud in every election, not to mention simple human error. But in this year's presidential election there isn't any evidence (so far) that fraudulent votes are sufficiently numerous to alter the allocation of electoral votes. Trump's team is entitled to pursue in court every possible allegation of vote fraud. So far they've managed to get a few ballots thrown out in Pennsylvania."

@Retired Grunt claimed that "some continue to dismiss it as never happening anywhere ever." I'm asking for evidence, because I haven't seen anyone claim that vote(r) fraud doesn't exist. Have you?
 
It doesn't take a rocket scientist or PH.D. to realize this country has a voting system on par with a third world country. The system as it is now is open to mass voting fraud. No identification, Dems encouraging illegal aliens to vote, mail in ballots without verification, on and on and on. The system is broken with no end in site.

Now we have the voices of the left wanting to black list people, jobs being endangered because of political beliefs, getting sucker punched by chicken s**t cowards. This country is divided to the point, IMO, that it will not recover.

Yes, I have become a pessimist in the last 12 to 20 years.

T2A
 
For pity's sake, read what I wrote in #636:

"There is probably vote fraud in every election, not to mention simple human error. But in this year's presidential election there isn't any evidence (so far) that fraudulent votes are sufficiently numerous to alter the allocation of electoral votes. Trump's team is entitled to pursue in court every possible allegation of vote fraud. So far they've managed to get a few ballots thrown out in Pennsylvania."

@Retired Grunt claimed that "some continue to dismiss it as never happening anywhere ever." I'm asking for evidence, because I haven't seen anyone claim that vote(r) fraud doesn't exist. Have you?
Read my post again. Almost all of the news media have been saying no voter fraud. Hopefully you are like me in that I do not listen to those outlets except a quick check to see what the others are saying.

I do not want to play the word games, all, every, never. The fraud might not be enough to swing the election, but my contention is we have to find a better way to do it.
 
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