Redding s bushing die

[Lkwebb]

I am wanting to try out this type of die for reloading my 6mm arc. I know this is prolly a Newb ? But rather ask than buy something I cant use..
I can use the .243 (6mm) neck sizing die with the bushing I decide on correct..
Iv emailed Redding to see if a body die will be available in the coming month...time will tell I guess

 

[JSH]

I have questions to those in the know on same subject.

Will a FL bushing die bump the shoulder?

What’s the difference of a FL neck bushing die with out a bushing using it for a body die?

 

[piie]

Type S is FL AFAIK, so unless the 6mm ARC's body dimensions are smaller than a 243 in all dimensions, it's going to size the body...

 

[Bc'z]

Type S FL die with bushing removed can be used as a body die.
Type S Nk die can also double as a decapping die if expander is removed

Neck die will not set back shoulders, the FL die will.

 

[Uncle Ed]

Just remember bushing dies work best with tight neck chambers with neck turned brass.
And with an off the shelf factory rifle with a SAAMI chamber, there may be no advantage using a bushing die. Meaning you will have no control over how much the neck expands when fired. And you will end up working the neck with little difference than using a standard non-bushing die.

Tech Line & Tips (FAQs)
Bushing Selection
https://www.redding-reloading.com/tech-line-a-tips-faqs/140-bushing-selection

"The above methods of determining bushing size require that the cases being sized have a fairly uniform neck wall thickness or have been neck turned. If the neck wall thickness varies more than 0.002", it may be necessary to use a bushing a couple of thousandths smaller than your calculations indicate, and then use a size button in the die to determine the final inside neck diameter."

FL Bushing Dies vs. Honed FL Dies
https://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/reloading/fl-bushing-dies-vs-honed-fl-dies/

 

[Lkwebb]

Type S FL die with bushing removed can be used as a body die.
Type S Nk die can also double as a decapping die if expander is removed

Neck die will not set back shoulders, the FL die will.

No this is a hand lapped barrel. Not a factory barrel

 

[Bc'z]

No this is a hand lapped barrel. Not a factory barrel

And????
The dies function as described.
I'm not understanding.
I personally use Type S dies in all our bolt guns, no expander mandrel.
1 Krieger, 2 factory barrels.
Run out is .0015-.002

 

[Metal God]

Isn’t the arc designed to fit in a ar mag well ?? If so a 243 die will be to long to neck size such a short case .

 

[LCazador]

Isn’t the arc designed to fit in a ar mag well ?? If so a 243 die will be to long to neck size such a short case .

Like the man says 6ARC case will not go into 243 die far enough to get any sizing. Hornady has die set for 6ARC?

 

[Lkwebb]

This is in a bold action platform not a AR.... That's why the questioned was asked about a s bushing etc

 

[Metal God]

This is in a bold action platform not a AR.... That's why the questioned was asked about a s bushing etc

That really has no relevance in the over all question as it pertained to using a 243 bushing die . The issue is not the firearm being used but rather the size of the cartridge case it self and if it would be long enough to neck size in a 243 die . I only referenced the AR mag for a clear understanding of the length of the cartridge it self . The ARC will fit in a AR-15 mag at 2.260 , while a 243 will only fit in a AR-10 mag 2.710

This is a 223 and 308 sitting next to each other . The trim length on a 223 is 1.750 and the ARC I think is 1.500-ish so much shorter then even a 223 case while the 243 trim length is 2.035 . Note that the 6mmARC case neck will not sit as high as the 308 neck which is about the same height as a 243 cartridge . Meaning the 6mmARC case will not reach the bushing in a 243 die . Even if it did it would only size a very small portion of the neck which would result in very little bullet hold .

 

[Metal God]

Here you go . If using a bolt gun . The Lee 6mm ARC collet die set is what you are looking for until Redding or someone comes out with the bushing dies . They're out of stock here but maybe another online store has them .
https://leeprecision.com/collet-dies-6mm-arc.html

 

[Lkwebb]

Here you go . If using a bolt gun . The Lee 6mm ARC collet die set is what you are looking for until Redding or someone comes out with the bushing dies . They're out of stock here but maybe another online store has them .
https://leeprecision.com/collet-dies-6mm-arc.html

I already have the lee collet die..
I have contacted redding about a die,.

 

[Metal God]

If you send three fired cases to Forster they’ll make you a die custom to your rifles chamber if you want to go that route . Redding might do the same thing not sure

 

[JFrank]

Just remember bushing dies work best with tight neck chambers with neck turned brass.
And with an off the shelf factory rifle with a SAAMI chamber, there may be no advantage using a bushing die. Meaning you will have no control over how much the neck expands when fired. And you will end up working the neck with little difference than using a standard non-bushing die.

Tech Line & Tips (FAQs)
Bushing Selection
https://www.redding-reloading.com/tech-line-a-tips-faqs/140-bushing-selection

"The above methods of determining bushing size require that the cases being sized have a fairly uniform neck wall thickness or have been neck turned. If the neck wall thickness varies more than 0.002", it may be necessary to use a bushing a couple of thousandths smaller than your calculations indicate, and then use a size button in the die to determine the final inside neck diameter."

FL Bushing Dies vs. Honed FL Dies
https://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/reloading/fl-bushing-dies-vs-honed-fl-dies/

Sir
What brand of Brass has a neck wall variation of .002 ? I want to avoid that brand.

I have only seen around 0.0005 variations in Lapua

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Whidden will make you some from the reamer print. Wilson will make some too.

 

[Uncle Ed]

Sir
What brand of Brass has a neck wall variation of .002 ? I want to avoid that brand.

I have only seen around 0.0005 variations in Lapua

I have seen Remington .223 brass with .009 neck thickness variations.

And since Redding puts an expander in their bushing dies they must know something about neck thickness variations.

I'm not criticizing competitive shooters with custom made rifles who use Lapua brass. What I'm saying is the average reloader with an off the shelf factory rifle with average brass does not need a bushing die.

Did you say .0005 neck thickness variations with Lapua brass????

 

[JFrank]

Thank you Sir,
Obviously a good reason to not use or buy Remington brass, probably a good candidate for that pesky runout that some die manufacturers warn us about.

Yes my Lapua can vary from.013-.0135 ish .. certainly not anything like the disaster posted above that appears to have been attacked by Liberals at some waypoint along the journey.

 

[Uncle Ed]

Thank you Sir,
Obviously a good reason to not use or buy Remington brass, probably a good candidate for that pesky runout that some die manufacturers warn us about.

Yes my Lapua can vary from.013-.0135 ish .. certainly not anything like the disaster posted above that appears to have been attacked by Liberals at some waypoint along the journey.

But I'm a liberal reloader, I buy bulk once fired Lake City 7.62 and 5.56 brass and call it good enough. Or am I a conservative because the Lake City brass is a fraction of the cost of Lapua.

Oh well, I'm so cheap when I break wind it sounds like a silent dog whistle.

 

[JFrank]

I visit the High Road Forum where many members pick up range brass with mixed head stamps also buy the once fired brass then complain of accuracy and resizing inconsistencies.