What does everyone think of this carbon ring removal method

[Davey Boy]

This was posted back in 2005 as a way to remove a carbon ring. There were no comments at the time on it. Originally posted by member LongRanger. What do you think? Good way or not, is it possible to damage the barrel?

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If you have or suspect carbon buildup in the small space between the mouth end of your case and the end of the chamber it can quickly be removed mechanically. Have used this trick for years.

Take a fired case and cut a series of small, pointed notches in the lip with a Dremel cut-off disk. Use the same cut-off disk to cut the neck off at the shoulder. Glue or force-fit the neck onto the end of an appropriately- sized wood dowel. Run your new cleaning tool into the chamber, by hand, until it stops. Give it a light twist or two. Remove tool and clean chamber. Carbon gone.

 

[Poor Shot 65]

Just use iosso and kroil... takes 5 minutes. use a bore scope to verify. I never understand why people try to over think this.

Adam

 

[Davey Boy]

Oh I know that works, just wondering if this method would work and is it safe?

 

[ormandj]

Oh I know that works, just wondering if this method would work and is it safe?

Why? Unless you've got a really stubborn carbon ring that's been neglected for years, you don't need a brass toothed scraper for that area, normal cleaning with good products will work fine without any risk. Would a brass case damage the the chamber? Probably not - but sounds like another random "tool" hanging around to solve a problem you hopefully avoid with proper maintenance. Put 10k reloads with Varget through a barrel without cleaning and you might as well use C4 to clean out the carbon ring at that point...

 

[dolek]

Sounds like a quick,safe and easy way to get directly to the issue .

 

[Rustytigwire]

This was posted back in 2005 as a way to remove a carbon ring. There were no comments at the time on it. Originally posted by member LongRanger. What do you think? Good way or not, is it possible to damage the barrel?

Verbatim

If you have or suspect carbon buildup in the small space between the mouth end of your case and the end of the chamber it can quickly be removed mechanically. Have used this trick for years.

Take a fired case and cut a series of small, pointed notches in the lip with a Dremel cut-off disk. Use the same cut-off disk to cut the neck off at the shoulder. Glue or force-fit the neck onto the end of an appropriately- sized wood dowel. Run your new cleaning tool into the chamber, by hand, until it stops. Give it a light twist or two. Remove tool and clean chamber. Carbon gone.

I was thinking the same thing..
As far as potential damage take a cartridge and use on your lathe as a turning tool to cut barrel steel. Wow its too soft. Didn't even make a mark.
Try it, if you like it then do it.

 

[cw308]

A product call Lead Removing Polishing Cloth, you cut it to your patch size , used on your cleaning rod , turns a hard build up into a cream , removes like magic. I first started using it on my stainless steel revolver to remove the rings on the front of the cylinder , wiped off so easy I was amazed , could remove the bluing on a blued gun so go lightly. MidwayUSA has it.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I wonder how a case, with teeth cut into it, will reach the spot that brass never reaches and lets carbon build up in the first place?
I bet this was posted from a cabin with snow blocking the door and never actually tested.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

If you own the reamer, why not stick it in the chamber and give it a twist?
Serious question for those worried about a carbon ring.
Trust me, any part of the throat that you want there wont get shorter as you fire the gun.

What am I missing here?

 

[jr600yd]

CRC. Works great

 

[bozo699]

I wonder how a case, with teeth cut into it, will reach the spot that brass never reaches and lets carbon build up in the first place?
I bet this was posted from a cabin with snow blocking the door and never actually tested.

Nailed it!
Wayne

 

[ronemus]

I wonder how a case, with teeth cut into it, will reach the spot that brass never reaches and lets carbon build up in the first place?
I bet this was posted from a cabin with snow blocking the door and never actually tested.

It only uses the NECK of a fired case attached to a dowel.

 

[LCazador]

Well I heard of this before and a fellow shooter brought me his rifle with quite the build up of brass at the end of the chamber. This was verified by my Hawkeye! Dusty yes you can reach it with that wooden dowel and the case neck at the end of it. But no it doesn't work. Carbon is much harder and more abrasive than brass and will actually remove the brass from the end of that dowel. Trying to save a dime on cleaning supplies can cost you a barrel! No I was not able to remove that nut at the end of the chamber for my friend. He had it rechambered from what I understand. He did pay me hush money not to tell about his blunder,LOL!!

 

[mike a]

I wonder how a case, with teeth cut into it, will reach the spot that brass never reaches and lets carbon build up in the first place?
I bet this was posted from a cabin with snow blocking the door and never actually tested.

Sounds like a job for the Caveman Engineer. LOL.

 

[Davey Boy]

Well I heard of this before and a fellow shooter brought me his rifle with quite the build up of brass at the end of the chamber. This was verified by my Hawkeye! Dusty yes you can reach it with that wooden dowel and the case neck at the end of it. But no it doesn't work. Carbon is much harder and more abrasive than brass and will actually remove the brass from the end of that dowel. Trying to save a dime on cleaning supplies can cost you a barrel! No I was not able to remove that nut at the end of the chamber for my friend. He had it rechambered from what I understand. He did pay me hush money not to tell about his blunder,LOL!!

OK I can buy that it won't work, as I say I was just wondering whether it would or not.
I like the idea of the lead cloth too. Always learning something on this forum.
I am tempted to try it (the cut brass method) to see if it might work.

 

[cem]

Never tried it and no experience in a rifle. The method is common for magnum revolvers fired with shorter Special brass as a .357 Magnum cylinder fouled by many .38 Special cases and all the other possibilities from .327 Magnum chambers with .32 S&W cases or .32 H&R cases to .44 and up. Mechanical removal is necessary in revolvers where the fouling can be and often is allowed to build over many cartridges fired and long periods of time. Allowing the same level of accumulation in a rifle will be a mistake.

 

[bozo699]

It only uses the NECK of a fired case attached to a dowel.

ronemus,
I’m with @Dusty Stevens on this!... please explain how a case neck on a dowel could ever reach the carbon ring?... I never have carbon problems so I’m not interested in trying this method but am interested in knowing how?... case neck stops at in the chamber where the reamer cuts it the carbon ring starts from there to the lead. If the brass neck you cut off makes it to the lead something is wrong with your chamber
Wayne

 

[group therapy]

paging mr guffey!!! paging mr guffey!!!

 

[Dusty Stevens]

ronemus,
I’m with @Dusty Stevens on this!... please explain how a case neck on a dowel could ever reach the carbon ring?... I never have carbon problems so I’m not interested in trying this method but am interested in knowing how?... case neck stops at in the chamber where the reamer cuts it the carbon ring starts from there to the lead. If the brass neck you cut off makes it to the lead something is wrong with your chamber
Wayne

Cut it off 3 times and its still too short

 

[BoydAllen]

Fellows, I think that there is a bit of misunderstanding going on here, in that there are two separate issues that happen very close together. The first is a buildup of powder fouling at the front of the neck part of the chamber. This can be remedied by any means that reaches that part of the chamber with some scrubbing action and solvent. The second issue is hard carbon buildup at the start of the freebore. Hard carbon is so hard that no solvent that I know of will touch it except for possiblyCRL and I have never tried that approach and would not describe it as a gun cleaning product. What is left is something like IOSSO used properly and carefully, no more than is needed, the particulars of this being material for another thread. Getting back to the confusion, calling powder fouling carbon fouling is IMO at the root of this. Particularly since we have something called hard carbon, which is probably metamorphosed powder fouling, but very different when it comes to what is needed to remove it.