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COVID-19 Map worldwide, with statistics

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Yeah it's all a conspiracy. There's actually no COVID in Florida. We just want our beaches to ourselves this summer.

Orlando Health has done a mere 522 tests. That's versus a total of 3.3 million. Even if their numbers are wrong, and so are those of a few others, it doesn't move the needle. You'd have to believe testing sites covering a large proportion of total tests had their numbers wrong.

Funnily enough, none of the top 10 labs by number of tests are mentioned in the article. These labs have done 64% of tests.

What a dumb-ar*e article.
 
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Ah I will. I've been to the facility at Vero Beach but that's not at all the same thing - a bunch of skeet courses. And their rifle range is limited to one position at 200 yards. The Trail Glades shooting range has clays but again it's not the same thing. In the UK there is a "sporting" discipline that is run on a skeet course but what you describe is much closer to what I'm talking about. Typically you would walk to a station and select the "bird" you want presented (singles, pairs, various angles ie there are several traps per station). Clays can then come as doubles, "on rapport" or singles on demand etc.

So around here there are two basic games. With super sporting you have three presentations at each station. The first three shots at that station are singles, one from each of the presentations. That is followed by pairs from two of the stations with the stations changing. Sometimes they are report pairs, sometimes true pairs. With regular old sporting they have two presentations at each station. You shoot either report pairs or true pairs or both but no singles. Depending on the course, you sometimes have a good walk between the stations and at some of the stations on some of the courses the views are stunning. There are 3 courses within a half hour to 40 minutes from my house. One of the best courses is about 3 hours away over in Polson Montana. The presentation there can get really wild. One station that stands out is shooting down a canyon where you can get a bit of vertigo if your prone to that sort of thing and in one of the presentations it feels like you need to be careful lest you shoot your toes off.

(BTW if you are ever in the UK around London and have a few spare bob to spend, pop out to the Holland & Holland shooting ground to try both their sporting clay grounds and their indoor shooting cinema. The latter allows life-like practice with full power rifle targeting a variety of disciplines including running boar. Very cool.)

Yeah, I've been to London. Never did visit any of the "English Best" shotgun manufacturers but I sure would like to own one. Unfortunately they are way out of my price range. A guy I shoot with does own a Purdy. That thing costs more than any of my cars and he will let you shoot it but it's my policy that I don't play with other people toys that I can't afford to replace. He shoots it well too. Not a poser.
 
You can't beat the craftsmanship that goes into a Purdey shotgun. Almost a lost art. This is well worth a watch from beginning to end:


And a stock stained with oil steeped in alkanet root and a slacum finish is just gorgeous.
 
My local news provided a statistic that there was one death every 11 minutes in Florida yesterday. Ironically (or not), they never provided a similar statistic for New York, New Jersey or Connecticut when they were dropping like flies. Must be some sort of bias????????
 
My local news provided a statistic that there was one death every 11 minutes in Florida yesterday. Ironically (or not), they never provided a similar statistic for New York, New Jersey or Connecticut when they were dropping like flies. Must be some sort of bias????????
There were 35 deaths reported for 13 July, which is one every 41 minutes. The FL daily record was set last week with 120 deaths reported on 9 July in FL. That works out to one every 12 minutes.

The largest daily toll in NY was 3215, or average 2.2 deaths / minute for 24 hours. Yikes!
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Any notions why the death rate is so low in Florida and Texas?

While I still think it is early days re deaths in Florida, one contributing factor might be the large Cuban hispanic population in Miami-Dade/Broward which has shouldered a could deal of the burden this far. (Approx 65% of Miami-Dade County is hispanic.) While the race profile of confirmed cases in Florida is poorly monitored (42% unknown) the profile of deaths is better known (only 8% unknown). The proportion of deaths recorded as Hispanic is 26% while the proportion recorded as Non-Hispanic is 67%. White non-hispanics make up 44% of deaths, Black 21%. My Cuban-decent colleagues like to point out the difference between Cuban hispanics and non-Cuban hispanics.
 
In my county, Hispanics are 25% of the population, yet account for 51% of the cases. At one point a Hispanic was 5.5x more likely to contract the virus than a Caucasian. But the recent surge here is hitting more young whites (think college kids and bar patrons) so the disparity has dropped to 3.5x.

But, Caucasians account for 71% of the deaths, Hispanics only 14%. Hispanics here tend to be much younger than in FL, where you have many multi-generational families. In LTC facilities here (including many assisted living) the demographic is 95% Caucasian. Probably in FL you have many LTC facilities with mostly Hispanics.
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My observations

1. In my 71 years on this planet, I have never seen any country lock down any city or region as happened early on during this bs.

2. I have never seen any disease overwhelm the capacity of the health care system.

3. I have never seen the flu accelerate in the summer. Interesting, considering we have some half ass control measures being employed. I have never seen any control measures employed for the flu, ever.

4. The slope of the total deaths over time curve is not changing.
 
The largest daily toll in NY was 3215, or average 2.2 deaths / minute for 24 hours. Yikes!
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1025 was peak day. 1 every 1.4 minutes

I think your number might have been the day they reclassified certain deaths. Worldometer later spread them over the relevant days.

FL announced 156 today.
 
Good idea. Why don't you beat me to it?
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Here's a chart that will be interesting to watch. I have aligned Florida's numbers with those of New York at the point they each crossed a 7 day MA of confirmed new cases of 1150. So for NY this was, obviously, very early on: March 20. FL didn't get to this point until a couple of weeks after Miami-Dade "reopened": June 8. FL's case count rate really inflected a few days later but this will do. (By the third week of June FL tracks NY closely.)

New York, despite the warnings from Europe, got slammed for many reasons including, arguably, denial of threat, population density and commuter behavior, unprepared hospitals, unprepared population etc. The death rate rose rapidly with case count, with a week or so lag. Lessons were rapidly being learnt and a shut down pulled the rug out from under the tsunami. New case count 7DMA peaked on April 10. Death count 7DMA peaked 3 days later. Note how the death rate then fell relatively faster than new case count, likely as hospitals put in place better procedures, received more PPE, learnt lessons in patient handling etc.

During this period, the sunshine state was on a slow burn. Daily case counts were modest as was the daily rate of death. A lock-down undoubtedly made things easier and provided time for hospitals to prepare, for the public or at least some of it to realize the threat, for many businesses to adjust to WFH etc. (BTW our office building is still only about 25% of normal capacity.) While FL had a lot more deaths under its belt than NY by the time the 7DMA new confirmed case count hit 1154 on June 8 - 2,715 deaths had been racked up - the 7DMA death rate was still down at 37. (NY went from a 7DMA of 15 on March 20 to 39 three days later.) Hospitals down here have learnt a lot of tidbits from their colleagues up north: better intake and patient segregation procedures, more plentiful PPE, placing patients struggling to take in enough oxygen on their stomachs, waiting as long as possible before putting patients on ventilators, use of steroids and new drugs like Remdesivir. There's a great article in today's FT discussing some of the lessons learnt and how doctors have used social media to get the message out - well worth a read.

So far so good for FL. But, as the chart highlights, FL is in new territory with respect to daily confirmed case count and it shows no signs yet of rolling over. The rate of hospitalization is such that FL hospitals are now straining massively. (Keeping people alive longer in hospital is a double-edged sword as capacity fills up.) While nothing like NY, the 7DMA of deaths has tripled in less than a month to a level of 95 (versus yesterday's death toll of 156). The median age of new confirmed cases has for the last few days been running at 40/41 versus a median age of all cases to date of 39 so it's not just a bunch of young people getting it. Dr Leora Horwitz, an associate professor population health and medicine at NYU Langone Health and author of a study discussed in the FT article said: "In New York, the health system was overwhelmed and that is happening in the south now. Some of the bad outcomes we are going to see are because they can't cope with the volume." She added: "None of this is to say [mortality] won't be lower - I hope it will be - but it's not going to be by a big magnitude."

Of course the charts don't take account of population or case demographics, although the two state's populations aren't massively different (10%). FL has a higher median age of 42 vs NY's 39.

Gonna be interesting...


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My observations

1. In my 71 years on this planet, I have never seen any country lock down any city or region as happened early on during this bs.

I guess you haven't followed the news on Ebola. Ignoring Ebola for the moment, consider that COVID-19 is killing Americans at the highest rate of any pandemic since 1918, when lockdowns were imposed in many U.S. cities with varying degrees of compliance and success. Given that it's been more than a century since the last pandemic with such a large impact on the U.S., it's hardly surprising that few Americans alive today would have experienced such a lockdown. NB: I'm not arguing that the recent lockdowns were the correct response to the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, merely that they are not unprecedented.

2. I have never seen any disease overwhelm the capacity of the health care system.

When was the last time before COVID-19 that you saw refrigerated trucks used as overflow morgues in hospital parking lots?

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3. I have never seen the flu accelerate in the summer. Interesting, considering we have some half ass control measures being employed. I have never seen any control measures employed for the flu, ever.

About half of the adults in the U.S. get a flu vaccination every year. Doesn't that count as a "control measure"?

4. The slope of the total deaths over time curve is not changing.

Sure it is. The 7-day moving average* for daily cases of COVID-19 in the U.S. bottomed out most recently on 9 June, then tripled to the eye-popping levels we see today. As expected, the 7-day moving average for daily deaths followed suit (after a lag of around a month -- it takes that long for SARS-CoV-2 to kill most of its victims) on 5 July. Will the 7dMA of daily deaths triple from its recent low of 516 in the next few weeks? Maybe not, but I expect to see daily deaths average >1000 for at least a couple of weeks in the near future.

*The 7-day moving average of daily cases/death is an approximation of the first derivative (i.e., the slope) of total cases/deaths. The second derivative of total cases and deaths has gone from negative to positive, with inflection points on the above dates.

See for yourself.

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My first two words clearly say "my observations". I was not around for the Spanish flu. I have not wasted my time watching the news much, the biased media (both sides) sucks, so I did not "observe" ebola shutting down anybody. What I meant by half assed measures is even though we did the shutdown, and point out to people that wearing a mask is not about personal freedom it's about preventing your dumb ass from spreading this mofo to others. Some people don't give a flying rats ass about others. Halfass means some do, some don't care, especially the young folk, so essentially nothing is being done. Somehow this is about the money. The idea is to kill off the old farts so the old money goes to the youngsters. :rolleyes: Also, lets not forgot about big Pharma, lots of money in a vaccine.:eek: Here's my point: this virus is much worse than any flu I have observed in my lifetime by a major amount. Must be why they call it a pandemic. If some people keep not giving a rats ass about other people, it's gonna continue to get worse. This is not about freedom, it's perhaps about having some consideration for your fellow citizens. People who have no consideration for others are the scumbags of society. As you can tell, I'm not very opinionated.:rolleyes:
 
I think Toby missed the underlying theme in your message.

With "freedom" there comes civic responsibility.

(IMHO "freedom" is a myth. The only time you have freedom is when you are in a society of one. Other societies have woken up to this fact. Americans still dwell on the concept of freedom just like kids still think the tooth fairy is real.)
 
Re remdesivir, from today's FT:

"The Florida Hospital Association estimates that the most recent shipment of 427 cases of the drug would only cater for 30 per cent of the patients who meet the criteria, even as patient numbers soar.

The association said the health department was not expected to send more before July 27. New York sent some of its supplies to Florida but it has not been enough."
 
"What we really need are drugs that, when given early, can prevent a symptomatic person from requiring hospitalization or very dramatically diminish the time that they're symptomatic," Dr. Anthony Fauci told Mark Zuckerberg during a Facebook Live interview. Looking for a treatment, he expects results for a clinical trial on monoclonal antibodies by late summer or early fall. The laboratory-produced proteins - described as "precise bullets" that can be developed from antibodies from other people who've been infected by COVID-19 - are hoped to be used to treat sick coronavirus patients as well as for prophylaxis.

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If that's your point then we agree.
Can we also agree on these fact? More than 2 million people die in the US every year from various diseases. Of over 2.8 million total annual deaths (all causes): Heart disease ~650,000 (24% of total deaths) and cancer ~600,000 (21%).
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"What we really need are drugs that, when given early, can prevent a symptomatic person from requiring hospitalization or very dramatically diminish the time that they're symptomatic," Dr. Anthony Fauci told Mark Zuckerberg during a Facebook Live interview.
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What’s really needed are for scientists to quit playing with virus strains that can cause pandemics!
 
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