House arrest!

[lancexxx]

Don't know what the out come of all this will be, but it is very serious. I run a gun shop and this is the best week I have ever had. I wish it would go back to normal. The hell with the money. It is not important, The real issue is I have a 73 year mom that has asthma, had open heart surgery 2 years ago, and uses oxygen. If she gets it she is gone. Its not about you if you're young and healthy, It's who you give it too.

 

[Highpower-FClass]

Who defines "crisis"...?

The President of the US can declare a national state of emergency.

State governors can declare state-wide state of emergency

Mayors can declare state of emergency over their jurisdictions

In other words, various levels of government decides what constitutes an emergency in their respective jurisdictions

 

[JimT]

Who defines "crisis" maybe next years flu will be a bad one, will we stop everything then?

People that are a lot smarter than you!!!!!!

 

[SGK]

Don't know what the out come of all this will be, but it is very serious. I run a gun shop and this is the best week I have ever had. I wish it would go back to normal. The hell with the money. It is not important, The real issue is I have a 73 year mom that has asthma, had open heart surgery 2 years ago, and uses oxygen. If she gets it she is gone. Its not about you if you're young and healthy, It's who you give it too.

When was the last time you spoke to her? I lost my mother last year to emphysema (aged 74). Lots of things I wish I'd said. Kia kaha.

 

[Ned Ludd]

I am still waiting on someone to post an add for lightly used TP on ebite.

TP will last twice as long if you use both sides of a sheet.

 

[SPQR70AD]

Thanks for making that clear. I'll agree with you while raising the % to maybe 90+.

Too many of 'our' generation were heedless of potential effects their political and economic expectations would wreak on our society. Bill (b. 1946) & Hillary (b. 1947) count as "exemplary" Boomers, as does BHO.

Richard Nixon (b. 1913) and Henry Kissinger (b. 1923) on the other hand (having opened the door to China and whom I hold accountable for most of what has happened here as a result) predate our generation by quite some number of years. They both should have known better....

I always figured Nixon opened the door to china to counter Russia being they were mortal enemies then

 

[jimcasey01]

Tough ethical, moral, and personal rights issue. Should an infected person have the right to infect dozens of others because he wants to go out to dinner? Should healthy people have to stay home? How do you tell the difference?

Not easy to answer these conflicts and anyone who has an opinion has difficult questions that can't be answered by their proposal.

It seems most people are on board with efforts to stem the spread of the virus and recognize that staying home, closing businesses, etc is the quickest way to get life back to normal.

--Jerry

I can not speak for others, but I should not have to be surrounded by infected individuals if I go into the local gun shop or grocery store. It sounds like some are more concerned with the good of themselves rather than the good of the many.

 

[butchlambert]

I say the boomers are the most entitled spoiled people there are. they think nothing of getting a ton of operations knee hip replacements needless surgeries whereas the cost of this is bankrupting the system then when something like this happens it cant handle 10% of it. when I was in Bklyn NY I do not remember one old guy including my 9 uncles and father ever got any shoulder surgery and the other one mile long list of operations done today. all my uncles an old men I knew worked as masons longshoremen carpenters plumbers. I am 67 worked 50 years framing houses roofing and concrete never needed surgery

Well good for you! You need to get up on the other side of the bed.

 

[SGK]

TP will last twice as long if you use both sides of a sheet.

Apparently doctors believe that a loss of smell is a sign of possible COVID infection. Almost a third of otherwise mild cases in South Korea had developed anosmia as a prime symptom, according to Claire Hopkins, president of the British Rhinological Society. So, as you wipe, take a sniff. If your sh!t still stinks and you don't have a fever you might be ok!

 

[jimcasey01]

I say the boomers are the most entitled spoiled people there are. they think nothing of getting a ton of operations knee hip replacements needless surgeries whereas the cost of this is bankrupting the system then when something like this happens it cant handle 10% of it. when I was in Bklyn NY I do not remember one old guy including my 9 uncles and father ever got any shoulder surgery and the other one mile long list of operations done today. all my uncles an old men I knew worked as masons longshoremen carpenters plumbers. I am 67 worked 50 years framing houses roofing and concrete never needed surgery

Where are you getting your statistics, (or lack of) from? Just because you and your uncles were blessed with good health and did not need knee/shoulder surgery, don't get down on those who did. Where does it say that we must live like you and your uncles?

 

[Texas10]

You might have seen this article by an investment professional. He's a PHD, but not a doctor of medicine, and used a mathematical model to estimate the degree to which this pandemic will cause damage to the US economy, which sectors will be hardest hit, and how many will be infected and how many will possibly die.

The numbers are quite staggering. Within the next two weeks, 2 million infected with 80 thousand in hospital care, or about twice the number of beds available nationwide, and over 20 thousand deaths.

We can all hope and pray this virus doesn't take such a heavy toll here in the US, but his calculations are quite modest, erroring on the optimistic side. An interesting read, regardless.

No one knows TODAY if this is the likely path we're destined to go down, or if they do, they're not talking about it openly in gov't. However, we're now witnessing the horrible death rate and economic destruction in Italy, and Italy is not a third world country.

He goes on about the economic impact, simply devastating, world wide.

Read with a healthy dose of scepticism, but don't leave reality completely out of the picture.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/hell-coming-mathematical-proof-185019616.html

 

[SPQR70AD]

Where are you getting your statistics, (or lack of) from? Just because you and your uncles were blessed with good health and did not need knee/shoulder surgery, don't get down on those who did. Where does it say that we must live like you and your uncles?

I worked in every state on the east coast for 50 years met 1000's of people. it wasn't just my family it was every old guy I knew when I was young including tons of farmers. to me the guys that worked hard seemed not to need a lot of surgery. I am sick of hearing the old guys rip these young kids who for the first time in my life I am impressed by a lot of them

 

[SGK]

and Italy is not a third world country.

Italy has more hospital beds per 100,000 of population than the US does, albeit less IC beds.

And if you think the folks in Lombardy were asleep at the switch read this

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...covid-19-pushing-italian-icus-toward-collapse

The US rate of increase of confirmed cases is tracking way above Italy. Thankfully currently the rate of increase in deaths is lower.

However, Italy didn't go into lockdown* until there were 800 deaths. This is the lesson other countries/states are trying to learn from. We're at 300 in the US and it is far from locked down.

* And the US hasn't seen anything like the lockdown they now have in Italy. The military have been brought into Milan to enforce it. You can get up to 12 years in prison for flouting self-isolation laws. On Friday, they banned people from running or cycling outside. Quit whining.

 

[butchlambert]

I worked in every state on the east coast for 50 years met 1000's of people. it wasn't just my family it was every old guy I knew when I was young including tons of farmers. to me the guys that worked hard seemed not to need a lot of surgery. I am sick of hearing the old guys rip these young kids who for the first time in my life I am impressed by a lot of them

Hey kid! Me thinks that you are a millennial or a ??? Don't judge folks that have problems and hurt. No, I've never had a problem with knees, hips, or such. I have had 5 neck and back surgeries that came from real hard work. Unloaded box car loads of sheet rock in 100+ weather, unloaded flatbed train cars with bricks with brick tongs, ran a jackhammer in the basements of old military barracks in 100+ temps at Sheppard AFB in Texas.You know what? I paid for my insurance and the difference that it didn't pay. I'm still not crying about it.
You're crying about the wrong folks kid.

 

[spclark]

Here's a link to an article on Medium.com. Makes for interesting reading alongside all the reports of high mortality numbers world-wide.

Something knocked me flat several weeks back.

Began feeling weird late Friday at work. Saturday it was all I could do to get up. Ended up sleeping most of Saturday, Sunday, first half of Monday. Then I began to feel better though still wasted, all the while a nagging, dry cough. Tuesday I was up and around doing little things, Wednesday went back to work. Cough tapered off over the next ten days. No fever ever, nothing digestive-related. Just felt out of it, so I slept it off.

 

[Trophied]

I guess I just don't understand the whole fear of the unavailability of toilet paper thing. Does it come from watching Hugo's population lining up for it? I think a lot of people are going to be stuck with a big chunk of cash invested in something that is going to go to s**t! People line up at the grocery stores here before they open, thinking they are going to die before they stash their house full of hoarded goods. How glad would you be that you had a house full to the walls of food and paper goods once it's over, and there were people that died due to the lack of any one of those items. Good grief!

 

[carlsbad]

If you're not sure why we are doing this, look at Italy. Italy is about the size of Arizona but has the population of California and NY combined. So it is harder for them to social distance. Still, the regions of Italy hit hardest are not the densest populated. They are up to 5000 deaths and hand an increase of 800 in one day.

This is what we are trying to avoid.

 

[DirtySteve]

For any Constitutional Law scholars out there, I think if you just dig a teensy bit deeper into your law books, you'll find the government can legally do pretty much whatever it wants during times of crisis.

There is no Law Higher than the Constitution... Period end of story. I posted the four powers given to the government previously... Making me stay home was not one of them..

Tell me why then is it not illegal for a person with HIV to have unprotected sex with another person and is not required to inform them of their illness...?

 

[orkan]

Tell me why then is it not illegal for a person with HIV to have unprotected sex with another person and is not required to inform them of their illness...?

... uh... it IS illegal.

 

[JimT]

There is no Law Higher than the Constitution... Period end of story. I posted the four powers given to the government previously... Making me stay home was not one of them..

Tell me why then is it not illegal for a person with HIV to have unprotected sex with another person and is not required to inform them of their illness...?

Wow! Steve, if I ever need a constitutional scholar I’ll be looking you up. Where did you get your law degree again?