House arrest!

[Ned Ludd]

No one's rights and personal freedoms extend beyond the rights and personal freedoms of anyone else. The moment your actions start to infringe on someone else's rights, your rights are over. I think most sane people will agree that engaging in behavior that markedly increases the odds of becoming infected, potentially spreading it to others, and increasing the length of the pandemic, is most decidedly infringing on the rights of others. It is almost impossible to minimize personal contacts to zero. So like it or not, engaging in personal behavior that increases the risk of infection to an individual also increases the risk to the rest of the population. For any Constitutional Law scholars out there, I think if you just dig a teensy bit deeper into your law books, you'll find the government can legally do pretty much whatever it wants during times of crisis.

 

[338 dude]

I can't believe the people who want to quote the Constitution but they can't even wrap their head around common sense. Staying home is just the smart thing to do. We have so called adults acting just like children, if you say no then I say yes mentality. Selfish and inconsiderate is all it amounts to.

Whether it is for other people or for ones self it all comes down to one word RESPECT

 

[Rustytigwire]

Be safe or unsafe. We get to choose.
Do not choose for me to increase my level of exposure.

 

[Rocketvapor]

Watch out for this to be called a WAR.

 

[Gun Smith]

Sheltering in place!

 

[Old Navy]

Dumbest crap so far....

Agree!

 

[SGK]

The virus doesn't give a rat's ar$e about the Constitution (or anyone's interpretation of it, however misguided or not). Unfortunately it doesn't differentiate well between the stupid and the sensible either, and the stupid place the sensible at risk.

 

[SPQR70AD]

Some sources suggest the Boomer birth years were 1944-1964.

Others 1946-1965.

Look further you can fine it as 1946-1964, what the Fed. Reserve Board goes by.

As I’m close to turning 71 I’m an earlier member than you, at 67 born in 1953, just shy of the half-way mark.

So you’re a B’Boomer too, whether you admit it or not.

And having been here just 6 months you ought to have learned those of us here before you deserve more respect than your post evidences.

I know I am a boomer and that is why I have that opinion of them. not all of them but 75% and they are the ones that ran every govt agency that took away rights EPA BATF etc. being on a forum for a long time or short time makes no difference

 

[SBS]

The 1917-18 flu epidemic that killed MILLIONS was spread person to person. Had a great chance because of all the nations involved in WWI. Had nations and states practiced what we are doing now, the outcome may have been a lot fewer lost lives. While I sympathize with the well people in NY and other states that are under "shelter in place" orders, it may well be the only way to slow the spread so that the hospitals can cope with the numbers of serious cases. [Edit: The big fly in the ointment here is that by the time you feel sick, you've had the ability to infect others for some days.] More rural states are lightly affected, so rules are different. I don't think any official shuts down a city or state without thinking it is vitally necessary and I don't think they will keep it that way any longer than necessary; we are far too used to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". I don't not see this as a "power grab" to take our way of life and government from us, but to save lives and try to stave off another Great Depression. BTW, I'm not a fan of those who run the State governments in those (liberal) States that have given "shelter in place" orders. I have been a conservative even before I voted for Goldwater.

 

[spclark]

A neighbor and I just had a brief conversation out in the street (6' apart!) after I noticed he was out doing some cleaning up in his yard.

I'd gone out to get the mail (nitrile glove on right hand, but as I'd just finished spreading a batch of epoxy I was 'conserving' rather than 'protecting').

He allowed he'd heard somewhere that when the Pilgrims landed in 1620 they were confronted by few indigenous folk yet also noticed quite a number of bones laying about....

Speculation being that locals that had lived there before, having no immunity to the diseases brought into their lives by intruders explorers from other lands some years prior to the arrival of said Pilgrims, thus fell victim.

Which kinda sums up what we're confronted by with this previously unknown virus thrust into our lives.

 

[hogpatrol]

This virus is animal to humans and thus novel and with us having no inherent immunity. It's not the regular flu which is transmitted human to human and an illness that some may have antibodies in their systems to fight it off. If this hits you, your body and immune system may not be prepared to resist it.

 

[F Class John]

Here’s an unbiased set of computer models that covers different approaches to flattening the curve. It’s a great visual as to how different distancing programs work and why we are being asked to do what we are supposed to be doing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

 

[spclark]

I know I am a boomer and that is why I have that opinion of them. not all of them but 75% and they are the ones that ran every govt agency that took away rights EPA BATF etc. being on a forum for a long time or short time makes no difference

Thanks for making that clear. I'll agree with you while raising the % to maybe 90+.

Too many of 'our' generation were heedless of potential effects their political and economic expectations would wreak on our society. Bill (b. 1946) & Hillary (b. 1947) count as "exemplary" Boomers, as does BHO.

Richard Nixon (b. 1913) and Henry Kissinger (b. 1923) on the other hand (having opened the door to China and whom I hold accountable for most of what has happened here as a result) predate our generation by quite some number of years. They both should have known better....

 

[Old Navy]

The original baby boomers were those born in the first two years after WW2. Somewhere through the years someone moved the gold post. I was born in 43. Father was in the Marines. I have paid into social security since I was 14 and medicare since they first started collecting. I earned my SS and Medicare insurance. To get back on topic, I would feel terrible if I had the virus and gave it to anyone else because I was to selfish to avoid other people.

 

[Cecil S.]

I hope for good common sense and judgement to prevail here. What I dont understand is the "all about me" types. Many more of them then I would have guessed.

 

[JSH]

I am still waiting on someone to post an add for lightly used TP on ebite.

 

[spclark]

I am still waiting on someone to post an add for lightly used TP on ebite.

There was something on Fox yesterday about somebody doing an exchange... I have to wonder for what? New for 'previously owned?'

 

[Rocketvapor]

Looks like things might get real in some areas.
https://news.yahoo.com/chilling-plans-gets-care-washington-190537829.html

 

[Riesel]

I think I saw on the news were Costco was not giving any refunds on TP, sanitizer water, rice, beans and maybe a couple of more items. Didn't actually say why.

 

[thejamesd]

No one's rights and personal freedoms extend beyond the rights and personal freedoms of anyone else. The moment your actions start to infringe on someone else's rights, your rights are over. I think most sane people will agree that engaging in behavior that markedly increases the odds of becoming infected, potentially spreading it to others, and increasing the length of the pandemic, is most decidedly infringing on the rights of others. It is almost impossible to minimize personal contacts to zero. So like it or not, engaging in personal behavior that increases the risk of infection to an individual also increases the risk to the rest of the population. For any Constitutional Law scholars out there, I think if you just dig a teensy bit deeper into your law books, you'll find the government can legally do pretty much whatever it wants during times of crisis.

Who defines "crisis" maybe next years flu will be a bad one, will we stop everything then?