California is causing climate change. If they’d quit burning all the hinterland, we’d be so much more climate stabilized. Put a dome over Washington, D.C. or more precisely over Capitol Hill. There’s more hot air coming out of there than I can stand.
Tired of being blocked
- Thread starter carlsbad
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The stupid is too strong in the SF Bay area and LA. There is no way to stop it.
As for who is making the blacklist, first of all it's a company that thinks they should be the nannies of the internet and secondly it's some "tech" worker who isn't smart enough to get a good job and probably has a Bernie 2016 sticker on their bumper, right next to Obama 2008 and Kerry 2004 and Clinton/Gore 1992 because it's a 1991 Hyundai they bought used in 2002 with financing after they graduated from Evergreen College with a degree in socialism.
As for who is making the blacklist, first of all it's a company that thinks they should be the nannies of the internet and secondly it's some "tech" worker who isn't smart enough to get a good job and probably has a Bernie 2016 sticker on their bumper, right next to Obama 2008 and Kerry 2004 and Clinton/Gore 1992 because it's a 1991 Hyundai they bought used in 2002 with financing after they graduated from Evergreen College with a degree in socialism.
That's just the way a lot of people are around here.
The reality is that the stupid web blocking policies come from here and they are implemented by politically biased idiots.
If this thread gets closed or deleted for including too much truth, that's another thing to complain about.
I have to hold my tongue every day to avoid melting snowflakes around here (Silicon Valley). Don't make me self censor among friends.
The reality is that the stupid web blocking policies come from here and they are implemented by politically biased idiots.
If this thread gets closed or deleted for including too much truth, that's another thing to complain about.
I have to hold my tongue every day to avoid melting snowflakes around here (Silicon Valley). Don't make me self censor among friends.
Airports aren't just a public venue, they're under Federal Jurisdiction. And it might be worth pursuing a Second Amendment lawsuit.
carlsbad
Lions don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
Disappointing the suggestions of how to workaround. I had already implemented a workaround or I would not have been able to post. The point of the post is that it isn't right. the menatality that we can tolerate it so long as we have a workaround will work until they plug all our workarounds.
Some good suggestions on who to call. I'll work on this next week. This week I'm pretty tied up on this business trip.
When I got to atlanta I hooked up with my team and didn't have time to check the wifi. Has anyone recently used the wifi in other airports to see if similar blocking measures are in place?
--Jerry
Some good suggestions on who to call. I'll work on this next week. This week I'm pretty tied up on this business trip.
When I got to atlanta I hooked up with my team and didn't have time to check the wifi. Has anyone recently used the wifi in other airports to see if similar blocking measures are in place?
--Jerry
carlsbad
Lions don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
Not quite that simple. At work it took the 3 years of trying to get shooting websites blocked. The blocked porn, social media, email sites, picture hosting services, etc from the beginning. Then shooting websites wold get partially blocked for a week or 2 and then they would come back for months. Finally they blocked them all. The even captured the ones without shooting in their name like Pacific tool and gauge.
Surprisingly, about the same time they unblocked social media. It is clearly a conscious effort supported by management decisions. It is good the unblocked social media since my company has a couple of efforts being attacked by activists and I can track the activists' activities on social media now.
Firewall developers are working harder to make it easier for companies to block shooting websites and others so the firewall companies being run by anti 2A tech companies in silicon valley doesn't help. But the proprietor of the establishment providing the wifi has to decide what to block.
--Jerry
Hi-NV Shooter
Gold $$ Contributor
All I can say be glad they didn't locate you in the airport and pull you in for questioning as to why you were attempting to gain access to a firearm site!
just remember where you were, blocking now , tracking you down will be next!
Lee
Aren’t these free WiFi deals unsecure. There is phone service at airports, why do you need WiFi. Everything is blocked from employee abuse on our boats. Pretty conservative company. It’s an economic thing. I have been working on a hotspot for many years.
I don’t think unblocked free WiFi is a right.
I don’t think unblocked free WiFi is a right.
dc.fireman
Sling & Irons!
Generally speaking, not if they are publicly funded. And, you may be able to point that fact out by sending an email to the Airports Authority Board for them as well as the local County Authority. I grew up behind the Orange Curtain when it was still mostly 'red'.
dc.fireman
Sling & Irons!
I've recently traveled through MSP (Minneapolis-St.Paul), and IAD (Washington-Dulles), without a hitch regarding this site or two others I frequent.
Yep. I agree with you. It's wrong. There's lots of injustice in the world, I'm not sure what to do about it. Did you seek out the network administrators at the airport(s) you fequent where you've found firearms subject matter to be blocked? Did you explain how their blanket-blocking of "unpopular" content is affecting you and other law-abiding citizens?
Did you contact the city, county, state; whoever's airport it is about your concerns?
Have you mentioned it to the various organizations promoting shooting sports about the matter, NRA, GOA, SAF, NSSF, etc.? I believe that's generally what they're there for: advocacy.
Have you also considered not working for a "very liberal company" that are dismissive of fundamental American culture revolving around guns; who do not support their employees exercising their rights or pursuing happiness? You are allowing them to profit off your labor and therefor push their anti-gun agenda more effectively as a result. Why support them if they don't support you? Sounds like a horrible place to work.
Sorry I suggested a work-around. There's only so much time in the day, and "Activism" is not my hobby, shooting is. When I retire (if I get to) maybe I'll have time to write everyone about everything that's wrong in the world and provide suggestions on how to make it better.
Activism is my hobby and honestly, we have bigger fish to fry and we can attack those issues in venues where we are much more likely to get a positive and legally enforceable result.
Effective civil rights activism has a lot of strategy behind it. You need the right venue, the right plaintiff, the right defendant, the right law to strike down and the right legal strategy to do it. Missing even one of those factors is a huge risk for setting a bad precedent which might never be reversed.
Several years ago, California gun rights activists had a strategy to flip counties one by one to shall issue for CCW permits. It was going well until one idiot in San Diego got impatient and decided to file a poorly prepared copycat lawsuit. He was in the wrong venue, with the wrong defendant, the wrong legal strategy and he was certainly the wrong plaintiff. Long story short, he screwed up the whole plan, set a bad precedent and now California has to wait for a future Supreme Court case for any chance at shall issue CCW or any other carry rights. Instead of building momentum, we were stopped in our tracks by one well meaning idiot.
When there is a work around, the best option is usually use it.
Alternatively, tackle the issue as censorship. It's really the first amendment being abused, you don't have to say anything about gun websites to fight censorship. You might even get the commies on your side if you tell them Antifa is getting censored.
Around here, you have to be a bit quiet about gun rights activism. You don't want to file up the antis because they will get some Bloomberg or Soros money to pay people from the homeless encampments to show up at City Council meetings or hold signs. It's just easier to operate without encouraging the lefties to make a stink.
Effective civil rights activism has a lot of strategy behind it. You need the right venue, the right plaintiff, the right defendant, the right law to strike down and the right legal strategy to do it. Missing even one of those factors is a huge risk for setting a bad precedent which might never be reversed.
Several years ago, California gun rights activists had a strategy to flip counties one by one to shall issue for CCW permits. It was going well until one idiot in San Diego got impatient and decided to file a poorly prepared copycat lawsuit. He was in the wrong venue, with the wrong defendant, the wrong legal strategy and he was certainly the wrong plaintiff. Long story short, he screwed up the whole plan, set a bad precedent and now California has to wait for a future Supreme Court case for any chance at shall issue CCW or any other carry rights. Instead of building momentum, we were stopped in our tracks by one well meaning idiot.
When there is a work around, the best option is usually use it.
Alternatively, tackle the issue as censorship. It's really the first amendment being abused, you don't have to say anything about gun websites to fight censorship. You might even get the commies on your side if you tell them Antifa is getting censored.
Around here, you have to be a bit quiet about gun rights activism. You don't want to file up the antis because they will get some Bloomberg or Soros money to pay people from the homeless encampments to show up at City Council meetings or hold signs. It's just easier to operate without encouraging the lefties to make a stink.
carlsbad
Lions don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
McFred,
Thanks for the suggestions. I didn't mean to say that you shouldn't have offered workarounds. What I meant was that since we (problemsolvers) have workarounds which make it easy to ignore this. As a result we let them erode our rights. Erosion is a term for removal of material that happens so slowly you can't really see it happening without comparing over a relatively long period of time. It is happening everywhere, not just CA so don't think you don't have problems where you live.
I'm still on business travel so I haven't contacted anyone yet.
As for working for a liberal company, it wasn't that way when I started in 1982, and fresh out of college, I didn't recognize all the issues that I see today. I work at a multibillion dollar facility far away from the corporate headquarters. I don't get up each day and go into a living hell. I'm sure it isn't as you imagine it. I work with a great group of guys. I don't have to hide my hobbies, I have some of my targets on display in my office. And I'll retire after my kids are through school with a retirement that will buy me several hundred acres and a nice house in a shooting friendly state. Once you have a family, a career, and a job specialty centered in an area, it is't as easy to move you you may think.
California was showing some early signs of paternalism and sticking their nose into my personal business in the early 90s when I had about 10 years in my current job. I consciously thought about moving then. I decided not to. I was able to "work around" all the issues and continue a great life. I was a mountaineer, rock climber, triathlete, marathoner, astronomer, golfer and various other outdoor activities that thrived in California at the time. California morphed into the liberal nirvana and broke into the news as LaLaLand more recently. Remember we have lots of good years under Conservative governors including Ronald Reagan.... In choosing where to retire I'm looking to make sure I don't end up in a state that becomes the next California. Wake up Virginia. I even worry about Texas because it has 2 large metropolitan areas and a liberal college town. California is 80% conservative by area but the big liberal cities carry the state. Same for Illinois. Colorado...
When people challenge me to pull up roots and move out of CA I challenge them to think about all the things they would have to give up to pull up their roots and move. It is never easy but I'll be able to pull it off once my kids are raised.
--Jerry
Thanks for the suggestions. I didn't mean to say that you shouldn't have offered workarounds. What I meant was that since we (problemsolvers) have workarounds which make it easy to ignore this. As a result we let them erode our rights. Erosion is a term for removal of material that happens so slowly you can't really see it happening without comparing over a relatively long period of time. It is happening everywhere, not just CA so don't think you don't have problems where you live.
I'm still on business travel so I haven't contacted anyone yet.
As for working for a liberal company, it wasn't that way when I started in 1982, and fresh out of college, I didn't recognize all the issues that I see today. I work at a multibillion dollar facility far away from the corporate headquarters. I don't get up each day and go into a living hell. I'm sure it isn't as you imagine it. I work with a great group of guys. I don't have to hide my hobbies, I have some of my targets on display in my office. And I'll retire after my kids are through school with a retirement that will buy me several hundred acres and a nice house in a shooting friendly state. Once you have a family, a career, and a job specialty centered in an area, it is't as easy to move you you may think.
California was showing some early signs of paternalism and sticking their nose into my personal business in the early 90s when I had about 10 years in my current job. I consciously thought about moving then. I decided not to. I was able to "work around" all the issues and continue a great life. I was a mountaineer, rock climber, triathlete, marathoner, astronomer, golfer and various other outdoor activities that thrived in California at the time. California morphed into the liberal nirvana and broke into the news as LaLaLand more recently. Remember we have lots of good years under Conservative governors including Ronald Reagan.... In choosing where to retire I'm looking to make sure I don't end up in a state that becomes the next California. Wake up Virginia. I even worry about Texas because it has 2 large metropolitan areas and a liberal college town. California is 80% conservative by area but the big liberal cities carry the state. Same for Illinois. Colorado...
When people challenge me to pull up roots and move out of CA I challenge them to think about all the things they would have to give up to pull up their roots and move. It is never easy but I'll be able to pull it off once my kids are raised.
--Jerry
joshb
Gold $$ Contributor
Well, I just did it. I pulled the plug on Delaware and moved to Texas. We looked at Wyoming. The winters are long and cold. We got twice the house for the same money, here in Kerrville. I know I’m gambling against the Liberal influx. If we can hold them off for ten years, I’ll probably have Alzheimer’s by then and won’t care!
I’m 62. Moving was hard and it wasn’t cheap, tho the relief from taxes will cover the moving expenses in three months. The tax savings will pay for the house in ten years. If I last longer than ten years, I’ll be making money!!
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I’m 62. Moving was hard and it wasn’t cheap, tho the relief from taxes will cover the moving expenses in three months. The tax savings will pay for the house in ten years. If I last longer than ten years, I’ll be making money!!
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