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Here’s how the Red Flag scenario will happen.

RED FLAG LAWS also violate the DUE PROCESS clause of the Constitution.
This is not by any means the first time in history that "pseudo-science psychiatric" laws have been used to disarm the people......the beginnings of communist Russia being likely the foremost example. It cost an estimated seventy five to one hundred million Russian lives in the end.
 
Just because a Sheriff comes out against the red flag law, does not mean that they will not use it. My Sheriff wrote a letter that got national attention, he claimed to be against the red flag law. However, his office has already done stuff like this without the new law. I guarantee they will abuse it.
This is why some are pushing for a National Police Force, they will just do what they are told to do.
 
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Red Flag scenario -

Red Flag Laws. Here’s what will happen...

It’s a Sunday night and your family has all gone to bed. You let the dogs back in and lock the deadbolt like you do every night. All the lights are off now except a couple of night lights scattered throughout the house leaving that dim glow throughout your home. It’s bedtime and work and school are going to come early in the morning. You crawl in bed, kiss your wife and drift off to sleep being thankful for the air conditioning that allows you to pull that heavy quilt up over your shoulder despite the fact it’s still 85 degrees outside. A few hours pass...

0200 Monday morning and your wife taps your leg and says, “baby I heard something outside”. As you sit up in bed you hear the dog growling in the living room and you know something isn’t right. You grab that trusty ole 870 and head into the living room. Your wife grabs her 9mm and heads down the hall to the kids rooms just like you have rehearsed. “Good boy” you say as you enter the living room, trying to calm both the dog and your wife just as splinters fly across the room and the front door flys open. “Oh shit!” As you shoulder your weapon and send a load of 00 Buck across your living room and see the perpetrator fall in a heap. Before the “thank God” can even run across your brain, you see a second man coming in the door and you fire again. This time you hear the pop of your wife’s 9mm as she has joined in the fight. It has to be those damn meth heads from down in town! Just then you are consumed by a wall of bullets as you see multiple muzzle flashes from just outside the door and you realize something isn’t right. You turn to yell at your wife to “get down” just in time to see her take a load of buckshot to the face and her brain matter splatter the wall behind her. You feel the burning as 5.56 bullets Riddle your body. One clips your spine as you’re scrambling away and paralyzes your lower body. The last thing you see before you bleed out is a SWAT guy from your local PD holding your teenage daughter on the floor with a knee in her back as she screams and cry’s because she just watched her parents being murdered.

Why did this happen? You’re no criminal. You’re a Conservative and an honest family man. Your wife is a school teacher and your daughters are on honor roll. Why did this happen?

Well two days ago, you and your wife went down to welcome the new neighbors to the community. Your wife made them some of her “world famous” cookies and you invited them to church on Sunday. Later that afternoon, you got a friend request on Facebook from your new neighbor, which you gladly accepted. They seemed a little odd, but in the few minutes you talked they were pleasant enough. The next day while you and your family sat in church, your new neighbor scrolled through your Facebook profile. He saw that “Trump 2020” post and got infuriated. See, he’s a staunch liberal and he hates your kind. The next thing he sees are the hunting pictures you took last fall when your daughter bagged her first buck. Now he’s seething with fury because he is wholeheartedly against the “slaughter of innocent animals”. Next he sees your post from the last range day with your buddy and sees those scary black assault weapons on the table and that does it! He has to do something about the racist domestic terrorist living next door. He picks up the phone, calls the local Sheriffs Office and reports you as a threat under the new Red Flag law. The SO follows their SOP’s and conducts a no knock warrant because you have now been denied due process and you are considered guilty until proven innocent.

Now you, your lovely wife and two deputies have been killed for nothing. Your daughter will have absolute hell for the rest of her life. She will never be that successful person you dreamed for her to be because of the mental tragedy caused from seeing her parents murdered. The local news paper will report that you were killed after firing on and killing two deputies and that “over a thousand rounds of ammo and 22 guns were confiscated from your residence”.

Oh, those two deputies were just following orders. They left behind families as well and had served their community for over a decade. They didn’t know you were a stand-up guy with a great family. They weren’t allowed time to investigate things under due process. They were told you had threatened your neighbor and were out in the street waving an AR15 around.

This is the reality of Red Flag gun laws. Innocent people will lose their lives. Red Flag laws will be used for petty and vengeful reasons without merit.
-Chris Anders

Interesting read

Is this the Chris Anders that wrote it ?
https://www.commondreams.org/author/chris-anders

If not can you point me to the real Chris Anders?
I would like to read more of the writings

Thank You
 
The law is here. I twill be used as you said. If it were used very carefully it might be helpful once in a blue moon, but not often. Till it is repealed stay off of facebook. Don't talk to your neighbors.
I've seen the 'stay away from social media' observation a few times. This forum is no different than facebook in a few very important ways. Most importantly, there is NO SUCH THING as a private electronic ANYTHING. 128-bit encryption can be defeated, as can 256-bit and every other binary exponential phase. Privacy policy? Oh, please...

The advice I give my children - 'Don't say anything online that you wouldn't announce at the dinner table. Remember, Dad's listening.'
 
Accept that a free press, as compromised, is defeating all else.
And congress could make Red flag laws legal, regardless of rights otherwise. The only thing THIS president could do to slow it is ask for it... They'll never give Trump what he asks for!
So those really wanting it will add what Trump doesn't want. Then it'll pass, Trump vetos, the veto is overridden with help of their RINOs..
Keep in mind that the left is running as both parties. There is 3/4 needed and in place already.

It's a grave situation in that the education cult has compromised everything, everywhere.
We're surrounded, and with law enforcement built as militarized dogs of war -for the left(as approved by educated cult members within their administrative chains).
Big tech is compromised.
The FBI and intelligence organizations display perfect examples of compromised.
Every single gov't department and function, on every level, is compromised. Sabotaged.
It's all right in our faces now.

Trump is surrounded like us. He can't beat it either. But just imagine if he had not been elected.......
Just think about Epstein.There are more questions with that mess and I`ll bet not many answers. +1 more compromised.
 
The people that come to this site aren't the ones that will turn you in. Face book is another story.
Facebook is for high school kids and thats how i see it, i locked my account there many years ago. Red flag - if continue will result to a dreadful unrest and many will die. the things is, many have been yearning for this, prepping so which one side and how prepared is what matters to me.
 
I strongly disagree. I wanted him to hang out in jail and sing like a bird. Hes one of the few i wanted to be in jail for a long time
I hear ya D,
Once these creeps get caught they fall apart like a cheap suit !!:eek:
 
What you some kind of mind reading wadi? You know how Trump feels and that someone you don't even know is wrong about "many other things." Do you apply the same judgemental attitude to your own behavior? I don't know whether you are foolish or not but I know a liberal democrat when I hear one.
 
Some believe todays actions labeled Red Flag are just one more step in those USA Politicians and Rich that are following Saul A's Plan
 

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Well I’m not Liberal and I’m not a Democrat , So that makes you wrong about me now doesn’t it.
Move on...
 
Ill be the first to get behind any legislation short of confiscation that would have prevented any of these attacks
Is this still how you feel? You think that as long as nobody physically takes your firearms, it will be business as usual? Do you think legislators could regulate firearms and components to the point where it’s pointless to have one? I really want to hear what you think. I’m very curious to see what people on here think. Because all I hear is “well something needs to be done!” There should be a law saying that it is no longer legal from now on to use/sell/buy/make meth and heroin. Then that problem would be gone and we can all feel very proud. But that’s a terrible example really because if they could do that, it would not take away the right of one single law abiding citizen. I would like to figure out a solution that would actually solve this problem not just a knee jerk reaction. What is the answer?
 
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Well I’m not Liberal

Uh huh....liberal is as liberal does...You ever think about how irrational it is when you say you don't believe anything Trump says. you sound exactly like some guy from MSNBC.
 
Is this still how you feel? You think that as long as nobody physically takes your firearms, it will be business as usual? Do you think legislators could regulate firearms and components to the point where it’s pointless to have one? I really want to hear what you think. I’m very curious to see what people on here think. Because all I hear is “well something needs to be done!” There should be a law saying that it is no longer legal from now on to use/sell/buy/make meth and heroin. Then that problem would be gone and we can all feel very proud. But that’s a terrible example really because if they could do that, it would not take away the right of one single law abiding citizen. I would like to figure out a solution that would actually solve this problem not just a knee jerk reaction. What is the answer?

Tell me something that would have prevented any of those mass shootings short of wiping every gun off the face of the earth? Until they can introduce legislation that would have prevented any of these do not introduce ANY more legislation
 

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