Old style m77 tang safey

[glider]

Looking for help with an old style tang safety m77 chambered for .270. What I am asking for is a PIC. rail base for this action . There are no lug recesses or counter sinks on side . This is original model m77 with drilled and taped holes front and back only.
wrote to Jack Weigand with no options available .
Thank you

 

[watercam]

I just did a Google search and found Weigand's available (one new, one used) on Amazon, EGW makes them, plus a few more.
They seem to be around but it seems that drilling and tapping the receiver is required on some of them.

 

[glider]

Jack weigland said he cant help although I did find a thread where some one said a standard one piece for rem 700 works they are same pattern , unfortunately I am not with rifle and am trying to research.
not sure if there same as rem 700?

 

[Ggmac]

Why not a 2 piece ? Weaver style ? I think Redfield made a one piece , I may have a NOS boxed Redfield somewhere .

 

[jds holler]

Don't know if this pic does ya any good or not. This is my 270 with integral mounts. It does show height difference between front and rear action.

If you can verify that 700 bases are a match or what others are, I'd go two piece. Single rail mounts suck on a hunting rifle. (my not so humble opinion) jd

 

[glider]

Don't know if this pic does ya any good or not. This is my 270 with integral mounts. It does show height difference between front and rear action.

If you can verify that 700 bases are a match or what others are, I'd go two piece. Single rail mounts suck on a hunting rifle. (my not so humble opinion) jd
View attachment 1077059

Which mounts are those and difference in hieght gives more moa ?

 

[glider]

Reason for one piece is i dont want to lap and buy alignment bar .
Striped finish off stock and use polymerized tung oil.
With linseed oil and turpintine in wax paste as finish .
Now just want to see if rifle shoots.
Otherwise have heard not worth tryin to get rifle accurized . Seems hard to believe a company made a rifle which is such a poor shooter and unable to make adjustments for better accuracy.

 

[jds holler]

Which mounts are those and difference in hieght gives more moa ?

Those are the Ruger rings on the standard and most common Ruger receiver. Even though the ring height is different on them, the scope sits level on the rifle. No added MOA. jd

 

[Ggmac]

Reason for one piece is i dont want to lap and buy alignment bar .
Striped finish off stock and use polymerized tung oil.
With linseed oil and turpintine in wax paste as finish .
Now just want to see if rifle shoots.
Otherwise have heard not worth tryin to get rifle accurized . Seems hard to believe a company made a rifle which is such a poor shooter and unable to make adjustments for better accuracy.

No need to lap with 2 piece bases , especially a hunting rig .
Ruger made rifles accurate FOR THE TIME of manufacture.
Most rifles could hardly keep 1 moa , no matter what the rifle mags said .
Your rifle is soon to be collectable if it isn't already .
3 shot groups were the norm for accuracy standards for new production hunting rifles of that time .
Get some weaver 2 piece bases and go hunt with it .

 

[Ggmac]

That rifle looks to be shot very little . Rails have no wear marks and it still wears it's scope base plug screws . What was the stock like that it needed to be refinished ?

 

[Carolina Man]

The Ruger your talking about uses Rem.700 bases. It was called a round top reciever. I have one in 257 Roberts. Never had a problem in getting one to shoot. But not benchrest size groups.

 

[glider]

The Ruger your talking about uses Rem.700 bases. It was called a round top reciever. I have one in 257 Roberts. Never had a problem in getting one to shoot. But not benchrest size groups.

Heard this also on another thread and ordered a one piece rem 700 LA will see if holes and radius match .

 

[glider]

That rifle looks to be shot very little . Rails have no wear marks and it still wears it's scope base plug screws . What was the stock like that it needed to be refinished ?

Just like to have natural wood without shinny lacquer , Yes this rifle was my first rifle and I had a M70 win also never could put winny aside and now after building custom target rifles i am going threw family factory rifles and putting life back in them.
Picture is of m70 win. rebuilt and chambered in 6.5x55imp 40
Tryin to make M77 into a 6.5x284 norma with new BBL and bedding along with pillard tang screw

 

[jds holler]

My first real rifle was an off the rack M77 243 with the pencil barrel and sights. It WAS a shooter, and I shot several groups that could be covered with a dime -- bone stock. I actually won some dollars off my best bud shooting dimes on our hundred yard targets.

Since that was my first - and only rifle for quite awhile, I was surprised to find that they didn't ALL shoot like that. My other 77 is that 270, and it's a struggle keeping it down around 1 1/2 inches.

Seems like maybe time for a "Ruger 77 Accurizing Thread". jd

 

[Ggmac]

Heard this also on another thread and ordered a one piece rem 700 LA will see if holes and radius match .

Not the one piece , it takes the Remington BASES , meaning one front one rear . I don't remember the one piece being the same . The only one piece I remember were the Redfield , steel , blue , front dovetail rear adjustable for windage .
I don't like one piece on hunting rifles , to little finger room .

 

[Ggmac]

Just like to have natural wood without shinny lacquer , Yes this rifle was my first rifle and I had a M70 win also never could put winny aside and now after building custom target rifles i am going threw family factory rifles and putting life back in them.
Picture is of m70 win. rebuilt and chambered in 6.5x55imp 40
Tryin to make M77 into a 6.5x284 norma with new BBL and bedding along with pillard tang screw

Well , at least it doesn't have one of those aluminum stocks on it . Keep up the work , it's worth saving the good ones .
Did you ever find a win 70 1964 bolt that your smith lost ? I happened to be cleaning out a safe room and found a complete rifle , 1964 no bolt guide . Unfortunate it's complete and probably new .

 

[Ggmac]

My first real rifle was an off the rack M77 243 with the pencil barrel and sights. It WAS a shooter, and I shot several groups that could be covered with a dime -- bone stock. I actually won some dollars off my best bud shooting dimes on our hundred yard targets.

Since that was my first - and only rifle for quite awhile, I was surprised to find that they didn't ALL shoot like that. My other 77 is that 270, and it's a struggle keeping it down around 1 1/2 inches.

Seems like maybe time for a "Ruger 77 Accurizing Thread". jd

Well , tighten front screw first , remove stock forend barrel pressure point , work up load .
Your turn .

 

[glider]

Well , at least it doesn't have one of those aluminum stocks on it . Keep up the work , it's worth saving the good ones .
Did you ever find a win 70 1964 bolt that your smith lost ? I happened to be cleaning out a safe room and found a complete rifle , 1964 no bolt guide . Unfortunate it's complete and probably new .

NU-LINE gun parts has been working on a complete bolt assembly and I think they have all parts as of last week , they are supposed to call this week .
As for lost package some how UPS found everything after hours of calling and digging myself look on photo you will see what was lost and new version of m70 without wood stock , which I can switch back to anytime

 

[glider]

Not the one piece , it takes the Remington BASES , meaning one front one rear . I don't remember the one piece being the same . The only one piece I remember were the Redfield , steel , blue , front dovetail rear adjustable for windage .
I don't like one piece on hunting rifles , to little finger room .

your right I found redfield chart and its a 47266 matt finish but what am I looking at I have no idea how this works can you advise how and what needs to be done to install this
thank you

!

 

[jds holler]

Well , tighten front screw first , remove stock forend barrel pressure point , work up load .
Your turn .

I've never done it, but I actually think that putting a pillar on the tang screw might be a good thing -- but after creating a good barrel float and bed for the lug and front screw.

I'll tell you what; no other rifle I've ever had fits me as good as the 77's, for both carry and shooting. And I've always loved the tang safety, and have no use for the new three position pieces of crap that they've gone to.

Never had any problem with the Ruger integral rings either, and would hate to bridge that comfortable gap over the port with a one piece base. Some of us have hands like this for God sake.



And with that gap between the rifle and scope, ya can use your scope like a handle and let me tell ya, a guy can get comfortable with that.


These old rifles are pretty light, great handling, and hold a warm spot for a lot of us. I've got the two of them, and my old 243 needs a new barrel. When I do it, I think I'll just go 243 again. I've killed probably thirty deer with it, and wouldn't mind killing a few more. Next barrel I won't burn up on squirrels like I did with this one. jd