Daily Bulletin Article on Suppressors

[TF160 Guy]

Interesting read which begs the question.

Why are suppressors still not allowed for NRA sanctioned matches?

 

[rardoin]

Interesting read which begs the question.

Why are suppressors still not allowed for NRA sanctioned matches?

Not readily available to all and not legal in every state.

 

[Hoser]

Either are AR-15s... But the guys writing the rulebooks don't want to listen to reason.

After all, maybe if suppressors were used in more mainstream matches they would be more accepted by your average fudd or fence-sitter.

 

[Sniper338]

I think its the old farts that make the rules dont like change. Jmo though. Theres no reason someone shouldnt be allowed to use a suppressor in f class or ftr... dont effect anyone next to them.

 

[Dos XX]

Reduces recoil. Doesn't that seem like an advantage to you when shooting a 20 round string using 200 ish grain bullets in a .308?

Plus you have to make weight with it. Not being legal in all state is a huge problem as well. IMO, suppressors have no place in High Power matches.

 

[Medic505]

old farts that make the rules dont like change

Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge of F Class with us Snipper. Tells us, how many matches have you shot? Do you even have a classification card?

 

[okshooter]

I guess I have a different opinion then Russell and Dean. While they do reduce recoil they also do ad weight and get hotter then heck during a 20 shot string. Having allowed several shooters to shoot our local matches with them (I just don't collect their score cards) I haven't seen them having any advantage. While I am all for them being legal, I don't think many would continue to use them once they got serious about the sport. Personally I would rather have a longer barrel and higher velocities while making weight. And Dean, not only do I have a classification card, I finnnaallly got my HM card this summer so Skip won't pick on you anymore if I'm lucky enough to beat you again.

 

[Medic505]

I finnnaallly got my HM card this summer

Congratulations Keith! You spanked a lot of butts without it, I need to get back over there and pick on you next year!

 

[okshooter]

Thanks Dean. I hope to see you next year.

 

[DirtySteve]

If they sold suppressors across the counter with the same restrictions as guns, it should be a National Mandate to use one. Cuts down greatly on noise. I believe in New Zealand it is considered rude not to use one.

 

[Twitchy]

I wish they were allowed in F-Class. I shoot F-Class (TR) and PRS. The only time I shoot unsuppressed is when I compete in F-Class. I shot our last F-Class match (fun match) with my can. MD only had the stipulation that it still made weight, which I had no problem doing.

The fact that they reduce recoil or aren't available (legal) everywhere is a BS excuse to me. Keep the weight restriction and shooters will either may have to reduce length or profile to make weight. I see no difference in a 18lbs rifle with a can and a 18lbs rifle without one. I can hear it though.

 

[FatBoy]

I've been through this over and over but guys who don't like them for whatever reason, will never sign on. Best hope we have now is the CMP allows them and the dumb ass NRA either dies off or finally accepts that they have no consistancy in their own rules and buckles.

 

[JRS]

Why would you want them use them in sanctioned matches?

 

[FatBoy]

Why would you want them use them in sanctioned matches?

because this is America. Unless there is a range or safety restrictions, why should the sanctioning body restrict a shooter from using whatever they want in open class? If it makes it harder to score or make weight, that's their problem.

 

[Hoser]

Why would you want them use them in sanctioned matches?

Because I can. And with lots of ranges suffering from urban encroachment, the less noise coming out of a shooting range, the better.

Make them legal for matches and let the shooters figure out how to make weight and deal with the other issues. Hell, they allow scopes in Service Rifle now. Why, because the military uses them. What about suppressors?

 

[JRS]

The noise coming from the shooting range isn't going to be reduced by using a suppressor. The sound of a bullet in flight (ballistic crack/sonic boom) is generated outside the barrel and cannot be addressed by a suppressor. Shock wave generated by anything in flight traveling over the speed of sound cannot be reduced by a suppressor. Too much Hollywood bologna is adhered to. Though it helps reduce the sound for the shooter, it does nothing for someone outside that range.

 

[FatBoy]

JRS,

your wrong. plain and simple. The noise is dramatically reduced with suppressors to anyone behind or to the side of the range, period. sonic crack is the same but the noise at the firing line is much, much quieter. 30-33dB quieter, which is huge when you consider the power doubles every 3dB.

 

[Medic505]

Because I can

I have absolutely no problems with suppressors. I'd 10 times rather shoot next to someone with a can than some ahole with a brake. As stated above, only problem I see is legality issues. Personally, I wouldn't use one as I have a hard enough time as it is making weight with a 30" barrel. Not going to give up the heavy varmint.

 

[rardoin]

I would not see any issue allowing suppressors in F-class IF they were READILY available to all competitors. As it stands with them being an NFA item they are very time consuming and costly to acquire.

 

[JRS]

JRS,

your wrong. plain and simple. The noise is dramatically reduced with suppressors to anyone behind or to the side of the range, period. sonic crack is the same but the noise at the firing line is much, much quieter. 30-33dB quieter, which is huge when you consider the power doubles every 3dB.

Argue with Dr. Philip Dater. He happens to know a bit about the nature of sound, along with the measuring of firearm sounds, and also an instructor at LMO Training in Nevada. My belief in the advertised suppressor BS along with not using my head is the major reason I am essentially deaf without the use of a hearing aid.