Your best 6 Creedmore loads
- Thread starter fatelvis
- Start date
600yds???
Yes sir.
Ok, I am back with some info for my RPR in 6 creed. As suggested, I ended up with Reloder-16. I tried 17 and it was ok. I ordered in a 8lb jug of RL-16 and life changed. I am shooting the starline small primer brass with 42.0 gr of RL-16 on both the Berger 105 hybrid and the Hornady ELDM 108 gr.
I am getting 3065 fps AVG and an sd of 13 with the Berger. As a note 41.5 might be a little better in my gun with the Berger at 3030 and the SD down at 6.9. The Bergers grouped .3" at 100 (edge to edge raw) with both loads so either is pretty good.
The ELDM 108 gr shot 3055 fps AVG with an SD of 1.7 and an ED of 3. That's pretty hard to ignore although the group size increased to .4" raw at 100. Still a pretty fine starting point and I don't get many ED's of 3.
My tightest grouping bullet to date is the 103 gr ELDX hunter bullet from Hornady. I have shot 5 shot groups just over the raw caliber with this bullet in my gun.
Note: all the above was on an INDOOR 100 yard range on a shooting bench with front rest and rear bag. This was just to develop loads that have promise for long range reliability. I also worked with the Sierra 110 gr but haven't really got it to settle in at 100 yards. I will have to get this rifle out and stretch it's legs.
I have settled on the RL-16 for the Berger Hybrid and the Hornady ELD bullets. I am at my target velocities for the ballistics I need for out to 1200 yards.
Thanks to all.
v/r rch
I am getting 3065 fps AVG and an sd of 13 with the Berger. As a note 41.5 might be a little better in my gun with the Berger at 3030 and the SD down at 6.9. The Bergers grouped .3" at 100 (edge to edge raw) with both loads so either is pretty good.
The ELDM 108 gr shot 3055 fps AVG with an SD of 1.7 and an ED of 3. That's pretty hard to ignore although the group size increased to .4" raw at 100. Still a pretty fine starting point and I don't get many ED's of 3.
My tightest grouping bullet to date is the 103 gr ELDX hunter bullet from Hornady. I have shot 5 shot groups just over the raw caliber with this bullet in my gun.
Note: all the above was on an INDOOR 100 yard range on a shooting bench with front rest and rear bag. This was just to develop loads that have promise for long range reliability. I also worked with the Sierra 110 gr but haven't really got it to settle in at 100 yards. I will have to get this rifle out and stretch it's legs.
I have settled on the RL-16 for the Berger Hybrid and the Hornady ELD bullets. I am at my target velocities for the ballistics I need for out to 1200 yards.
Thanks to all.
v/r rch
One of the things I have found almost invariably is, if you use powders at the extreme end of either on the "fast side" OR on "the slow side", your "window" for accuracy is very, very small! It is not that these powders won't work, they will, however, you may very well have a very tight window for your best accuracy. I believe that RL-26, H1000 or powders in that range will work>>>just not very efficiently. You are better off with powders somewhere "around" RL-16, RL-23, H4350 or H4831, with RL-23 / H4831 being the slowest of the powders that would work well in the 6 Creed.
I bought a 1-8 for My Savage. How much is that going to limit my bullet selection?
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
It will limit it to every bullet made except the dtac.
Just the 115grain? I have heard others claim it's borderline on others. Good news for me!
I know it’s not the best powder for that particular bullet but I want to try it and see how it does I’m not looking to push it beyond its capabilities just see if it has a good accuracy somewhere in the charge lineup since I keep Varget on hand for other calibers and was just a small thing I noticed I got Berger information lists start load for 130 at 33.5 and max load at 37.5 the closest option as you said to use it for a different bullet was in my Hornady book which could be a dangerous load it says 130 gr eld match at 38.2 max and to start 35.5 I understand always work up but still that’s to close for comfort in my opinion
Last edited:
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
Lots of folks like the more must be better approach but a 1:8 will get the 107smk and the 108 just fine along with the other lighter bullets. Is it best for a 68gr? No but it works (same thing-more is better right?) if you got a 1:8 stick with 100-110gr and call it done. If you wanna step back to the 80’s get a 12tw. Just use what works best with what you have. An amphicar is a boat and a car but it doesnt do either one very well, same with a fish and ski boat.
I have have a few Berger's and am going to try JLK's, and BIB's. Anything lighter will be a 75 Vmax.
I'm trying a ladder test tomorrow with RL-16 ,Lapua SR brass, CCI-450's,and Berger 105gr Hybrids. Starting at 39.3grs and going up to 42.0grs.,if pressures allow. Hopefully I'll have as good of luck finding a node around 3100fps as yourself.
I’m interested in how long your COAL is for either of those load in your RPR? and if you know what your jump or jam looks like.
Even if you were shooting .6 vs .3 it would be a lot better than i’m able to get out of my frustrating RPR. I’ve actually used very similar loads with no real luck, but i suspect it’s because of the short throating issue....
Last edited:
41.7 of H4350 in a 23” barrel is giving me 2997fps average with a 105 type bullet.
Cleaning? You should do it on a regular basis. Why? For one the carbon build up can lead to pressure build up. Another is that even s.s. Barrels if not cleaned with in a given time period can corrode/pit! They are not made out of surgical stainless.
Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels
Agree - there is no replacement for actual cleaning.
Big shout out to Bartlein who supported the “lights out” PRS event last weekend in Oklahoma! They had guys on site selling blanks at a good price, handing out some t-shirt swag, and donated a couple blanks to the prize table - very generous!
Last edited:
That would be Jeff and Dave where there.
Thanks for the shout out! Hope you guys all had a good time!!!!!!!!!!!!
dnellans: Sorry for the delay. It has been a weird month.
My coals (caliper raw measured) 2.790" for the 108 ELDM and 105 Berger Hyb. 2.870 for the Sierra 110gr.
I kind of cheat in that I used the factory Hornady 108 ELDM ammo and just measured it for a starting point. If it works I use it. I learned this when I was trying to get a 223 to shoot a vmax 60gr. I started at the lands but ended up restarting with the COAL Black Hills used for their factory vmax 60 gr. It worked.
my 2 cents...
rch
My coals (caliper raw measured) 2.790" for the 108 ELDM and 105 Berger Hyb. 2.870 for the Sierra 110gr.
I kind of cheat in that I used the factory Hornady 108 ELDM ammo and just measured it for a starting point. If it works I use it. I learned this when I was trying to get a 223 to shoot a vmax 60gr. I started at the lands but ended up restarting with the COAL Black Hills used for their factory vmax 60 gr. It worked.
my 2 cents...
rch
What scope is that ?
Upgrades & Donations
This Forum's expenses are primarily paid by member contributions. You can upgrade your Forum membership in seconds. Gold and Silver members get unlimited FREE classifieds for one year. Gold members can upload custom avatars.
Click Upgrade Membership Button ABOVE to get Gold or Silver Status.
You can also donate any amount, large or small, with the button below. Include your Forum Name in the PayPal Notes field.
To DONATE by CHECK, or make a recurring donation, CLICK HERE to learn how.
Click Upgrade Membership Button ABOVE to get Gold or Silver Status.
You can also donate any amount, large or small, with the button below. Include your Forum Name in the PayPal Notes field.
To DONATE by CHECK, or make a recurring donation, CLICK HERE to learn how.