why isn’t he 6mm Remington very popular. If it gained popularity I’m sure better brass would become available. But brass set aside why don’t more people shoot this old time proven caliber. It will do everything and more then any 6mm caliber outside of a 240 Weatherby obviously. Easy to load, awesome velocity and accuracy. Mine throws the 105berger hybrid at 3120 FPS with 8fps sd. Useing H1000. Standard caliber nothing special. Just curious am I missing something here?
6mm Remington
- Thread starter Brent W
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Dusty Stevens
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Its not chic. I use one for a lot of stuff and would do a lot more with it if there was good brass available
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I'll be honest with you, but first I want to say that I believe the 6mm Remington (aka .244 Remington when my father & I started shooting it) is an excellent cartridge and the Ackley Imp. version is one of my favorites.
- The truth is, There are just to many other cartridges out on the market that shooters are gravitating towards and the demand for a true hot-rod 6mm is not really that prevalent. And we can't forget that the 243 Win. and it's Ackley Imp. version are also present as an option. - The 6mm Remington is "old-school" perceived by a good number of shooters and with the availability of some good / better manufactured brass in other offerings the 6mm Remington is what I'd consider a "nitch" cartridge by todays demands.
Barrel length? Powder choice?
30 inches 48.6 retumbo
I have a 600 that was my grandfather's hunting rifle that has had maybe three boxes shot through it that shocks me everytime I shoot it , it is one of the most accurate short barrel rifles I have ever shot.... You can order or even get Winchester brass for it from Cabela's....
For these small white tails down in South Texas it's just perfect...
For these small white tails down in South Texas it's just perfect...
I had a 6mm Remington chambered this year for my groundhog gun and have been real happy with its performance thus far. It really likes the 70gr. Ballistic tips and the 70gr. Sierra Blitz Kings with H4350 powder. I also went with the Hornady brass for it. My farthest groundhog this year so far is 512 yards and he went right down without so much as a twitch.
It's working real well for me thus far.
It's working real well for me thus far.
I like the idea of the longer neck on 6mm Rem, I’ve had a 243 also and liked it a lot.. An Ackley version of the 6mmRem is on my bucket list..If Lapua did brass for it I’d bet it would be more popular.
It's interesting that you bring this up. Remington is currently listing the Model 7 in 6 mm. I almost bought a 600 in 6 mm this summer, in theory it has a lot to offer in a hunting rifle. The reason I did not buy the 600 is the same reason that I think the 6 mm suffers. It really needs a long action and long barrel to meet it's potential.
My Six Ackley is on a Ruger Short Action so shooting 115 Berger VLD Hunters makes it a single shot. I am actually running an overall cartridge length greater than a 240 Weatherby with similar powder charges. With 7828 SSC I am at 3200 fps from a 28" 1:8 Pac-Nor. At that point the case head is leaving an imprint on the bolt and things are sticky. The bolt has been to Great-Tan and been bushed so primers hold up well. I need to test my loads on a different chronograph to double check, my velocities seem low compared to what others are quoting. At 3150 fps it has held zero for the past 20 months and will put 5 into 3/4" at 250 yards. The trajectory is fantastic and it is an absolute hammer. I shoot it 12 months a year and have no pressure problems.
It makes a fantastic whitetail Coyote/Whitetail Rig. But I would not do it again, I might still switch the barrel over to a long action but I would not build a new one. Technology has evolved and allows for similar results in a smaller package. If I was building a light weight hunting rifle I would lean toward a 6 XC, fits in a short action and it will push the 115 to similar levels.
If the 6 mm Remington was a factory long action then I think it would make more sense. With the changes in powders and the trend toward heavier bullets the greater action length would help. Problem is, short actions are all the rage.
I have 2 rifles chambered in 6mm Remington. I wouldn't trade them for the world. Anytime a new cartridge comes out, people run to it and abandon the old. Not that they're bad, but most aren't really any better than what came before. Would I like LApua to make brass for it? Definately! But I won't abandon them just because I have to settle for Win or Rem brass.
Liven The Dream
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I shot one for a few years as a Prone Rifle .
32” Barrel 115 gr D-Tacks 3025 FPS.
Short Barrel life .
32” Barrel 115 gr D-Tacks 3025 FPS.
Short Barrel life .
When I re-barreled my 1950's vintage FN Mauser I went with the 6mm Rem because it fit and fed so well in that controlled feed rifle. Loaded rounds are about 3.0 inches give or take .1 inch and fit well in that 3.4 inch magazine rifle. Performance is a tiny bit more than the .243 Win. Loaded with the pointy 105 grain Nosler RFD bullets and Re 23 the olde 1-8 twist Mauser feeds and shoots great. That rifle was built in the mid-1950's.
When unloading a long (somewhat more than 2.85 inches) unfired round from my short action Ruger M77 MKII does not work well as the nose of the unfired round cannot clear the receiver ring; the ejector is unable to flip the round clear and the ejector that contacts the base of the round prevents the bolt from being pulled. The back of the round needs to be pushed back into the magazine disengaging the rim from the extractor.
The 6mm AI is a definite step up having a noticeable increase in hitting ability. I shoot 105 Amax's out of mine - a Ruger LA M77 MKII. Barrel life is not so good.
When unloading a long (somewhat more than 2.85 inches) unfired round from my short action Ruger M77 MKII does not work well as the nose of the unfired round cannot clear the receiver ring; the ejector is unable to flip the round clear and the ejector that contacts the base of the round prevents the bolt from being pulled. The back of the round needs to be pushed back into the magazine disengaging the rim from the extractor.
The 6mm AI is a definite step up having a noticeable increase in hitting ability. I shoot 105 Amax's out of mine - a Ruger LA M77 MKII. Barrel life is not so good.
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Liven The Dream
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As History wrote the early 6 Remington just had the wrong twist.
The case is better than a .243 . The neck angle is better.
I still shot a 6.5X55 ! Set the two cases side by side .
I think someone at Remington saw something back them ?
The case is better than a .243 . The neck angle is better.
I still shot a 6.5X55 ! Set the two cases side by side .
I think someone at Remington saw something back them ?
CaptainMal
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Been using my 6mm Remington 660 since the mid-60's. Had a 600 model for a couple years before it. The 6mm Rem cartridge was also one of favorite groundhog cartridges I ever used in both a custom Mauser heavy barrel rifle and a Ruger #1.
Only the little 660 left here with me but I still make the effort to use it on Georgia deer every couple of years for "old times sake" Great case and cartridge.
Only the little 660 left here with me but I still make the effort to use it on Georgia deer every couple of years for "old times sake" Great case and cartridge.
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