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Craigslist "I know everything" ego of seller

So this is more of a gripe, but I recently ran across what appears to be a decent 13X25" Harrison M300 lathe. Looks like a nice machine to do some barrel work on. I inquired about it, and noticed the guy had some gunsmithing stuff sitting around in the photos. I asked about it and he said he built and sold to friends. I mentioned I'de be interested in the lathe and the tooling, and keep what I wanted to sell the rest. (didn't mention I would sell the extras off)

I, technically at one time was considered a gunsmith, I worked in a full time shop, building F-class, and custom hunting rifles. I have not done it for a few years, but still build stuff for myself. I had a great teacher who was an accomplished BR builder and shooter in his day. To the point, I can build myself a very accurate rifle. About 6 months ago I sold my old restored SB Hvy 10 and my SB 13x40 to fund a business purchase, so here I am today looking for a replacement.

I asked the guy about the bed length because it wasn't noted in the ad and it was hard to tell from the photo. I said I wanted to be able to contour, polish, etc. He proceeded to tell me that this is impractical and everything must be done through the headstock. I said, OK, just tell me the between centers length.

He then went into a rant about I've built 12 rifles, and they are X accurate and asked if I knew what a spider was. Being I've built about 10 of them for myself and friends, I think I know. So I mentioned I use to work in a shop building custom rifles and just needed to know the Centers distance.

I told him they made a 25" and a 40" center to center version and he said, look it up and "figure it out", "GOOD BYE"!

That is the abbreviated version, but what's wrong with people. Why the ego when you've only built a couple rifles thinking that your way is the only way. I've seen and shot some very accurate BR rifles done with a steady. I do most of my barrels today through the head stock, but who cares!

To top that off, about 1 hour after finishing talking with the guy, one of my more popular videos on youtube which was highlighted on the Daily bulletin here a few months ago received a notice that it's no longer suitable for advertisers after 250K views. Not sure if he figured out who I was and flagged it, but what a coincidence.
 
Suggestion: First of all realize it/he has NOTHING to do with you. He is who/what he is.
He may have more problems going on in his life than you know and with an attitude like that it is highly likely he does. Divorce? Bankruptcy? losing his home? Got fired somewhere? Who knows? Be thankful you aren't him. Also most likely, there is something better coming your way....it has happened to me like that over and over.
As far as your internet deal, anything to do with guns/hunting nowadays is looked at negatively by the "left wing" mindset of most of those that run these things. They believe that people are all puppets that have no control over their own feelings/reactions and IF they just see or hear something they will feel/do something negative. No Personal Responsibility AT ALL!
You seem pretty sensible to me.
Yesterday someone suggested a new public video forum that is supposedly not going to be "governed" like that. It's called BIT TUBE. I'm checking it out but haven't decided yet.
JMHO....Best Wishes
 
evolution I think.....

I growed up in an era where my dad and others would drag chickens around from farm to farm and fight 'em..... you put two banty roosters in the same space and they'll fight.

I think men are like chickens.........

:)
Haha, I try not to be a rooster, but I think even the best of us get pulled in from time to time.

I realize the guy might have stuff going on, but all the better reason to try and sell a bunch of stuff at once instead of dealing with a million people.
 
Probably mad you were asking about stuff he did not have listed for sale . Could have just ignored it I guess.
 
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I wind up butting heads all the time with usually that one person who thinks their way is the only way even though, like you mentioned to him, you’re interested in doing it that way. He was taught to contour another way, general human nature happened after that as we see. Story of my life in a way. Also why would you sell anything to fund a small business. I hope you’re very passionate about whatever it is. Small business is one of the most difficult things a person can put themselves through...I digress. I wish you the best.
 
People will say things to you on the Internet, social media, text and email they would never have the stones to say face to face.

I sold used cars for about 5 years once. The offers people would make via email and text were mind boggling. I'd often reply "does it embarrass you to make such a ridiculous offer" and that was usually the end of it.
 
I buy on Craigslist and sell on Craigslist all sorts of items. What I find with people is they are in need of selling for a reason. Divorce, lost job, getting too old to use what they have, etc. Its hard for them to let go and when you ask a simple question, they blow it out of proportion. Deep down, they don't want to sell. When buying, I share as little information as possible to avoid the psychology. All they need to do is answer my questions and agree to a price. Otherwise, I walk quickly if they can't answer a simple question without getting all weird.
 
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Whenever I am buying something I always try to stick to the purchase only. How much??? When can I pick it up??? What kind of shape is it in???, etc. I realize certain deals require more info exchange than others. I had one and only one craiglist experience. Not that it was bad, it was just weird. I was in the market for a certain jointer for woodworking. Found one on CL 2 hours away. The guy was super weirdo...he just didn't want to answer even the most basic questions. It finally got down to me e-mailing him that he was either going to tell me where I can see/buy this machine or I was done playing. I mean, if you are selling something you are going to have to talk a little.
After {no B.S.} 18 e-mails back and forth asking the same two questions, he finally gave me his address and phone number. The day I arrived to get this thing he comes out of his house and points to his shop/garage. I look at the machine and pay him cash and he literally stands in the corner like a scolded kid while me and a buddy load the thing up.
We are about ready to leave when his normal acting, friendly wife comes out and asks, "so, would you guys like some Mexican coke???" I guess we both looked surprised because there was this strange "moment" of silence while we all exchanged glances and then she said, "coca-cola"...."yeah, it tastes different...we go down there and bring it back"...To which I replied, "yeah, I'll try anything once!!" She returned with two bottles of coke that had Spanish writing on it, but I couldn't really tell the difference. Don't drink coke anyways.
Bottom line, stick to the deal at hand and as with any arms length transaction, just because you didn't close a deal to get the item don't mean you didn't win!!!
 
In your original post, you had your answer. The lathe was listed as a “13x25”. The 25 indicated the approximate center to center distance. So 25 inches is your answer. Whether that works for you or not is up to you.

As far as “his attitude” is concerned, all I can say is that “it takes two to tangle”.
 
Super annoying... I’m no gunsmith myself. I can do pretty dang nice bedding but that’s it. Your average “gunsmiths” are know it all a assholes. But, the very best are usually cool, laid back, helpful folks. It’s no surprise they’ve built a large following.

I will say I’ve seen this same kind of crap in the varmint hunting community. I’ve been doing it since I was 4 years old, but on social media I regularly get told what I’m doing wrong by people who stared up a year ago and have killed a handful of gray fox.

That’s why I like this site... pretty much just facts and friendly folks, with very little trolling.
 
Super annoying... I’m no gunsmith myself. I can do pretty dang nice bedding but that’s it. Your average “gunsmiths” are know it all a assholes. But, the very best are usually cool, laid back, helpful folks. It’s no surprise they’ve built a large following.

I will say I’ve seen this same kind of crap in the varmint hunting community. I’ve been doing it since I was 4 years old, but on social media I regularly get told what I’m doing wrong by people who stared up a year ago and have killed a handful of gray fox.

That’s why I like this site... pretty much just facts and friendly folks, with very little trolling.
check out Mr.Piggy on Varmints,,thats what I'm after tonite,,
 
Craig's List seems to be territorial, here in WNY it seems you are dealing with the dregs of society on CL. Can't tell you how many times I've gotten the "I'll take it, cancel the ad" and they never show up. I now ask for PayPal payment before cancelling the ad. BUT, I understand in some areas it is the go to place to buy or sell. Go figure.

Bill
 
I had a seller with an attitude yesterday on ebay. I was placing a bid on his scope but I politely ask if he could answer some questions for me. He answered them and left the message saying, please do not bother me again. Needless to say I passed on continuing to place my bids and someone else got it
 

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