147 ELD coming apart

[Down South]

No, not even in the 300 Win Mag.

Good to hear.......

 

[FrankG]

Anyone see any jacket failures in the .30 cal 208 & 225 ELD-M?

I just shot almost 40 rounds thru my new .30 mag. last Friday. 800, 900 and 1k yards of the 225's. No failures and accuracy was excellent. This was thru a F open rifle. Muzzle velocity was 2900fps and was coming in at 1800+ at the target.

 

[Down South]

I just shot almost 40 rounds thru my new .30 mag. last Friday. 800, 900 and 1k yards of the 225's. No failures and accuracy was excellent. This was thru a F open rifle. Muzzle velocity was 2900fps and was coming in at 1800+ at the target.

Nice.......

 

[FrankG]

Nice.......

Picture of one of the targets (electronic targets). I only had 5 rounds of a specific load (bumped the powder charge a couple of grains watching for pressures) to see how it would do. After the first shot I clicked the scope down and over to the left to center the gun up (Vortex GE scope) then shot the last four rounds. I wasn't worried to much about the wind as it was running left to right from calm to 5mph. I was just watching the vertical and wanted good zeros for 800, 900 and a 1k.

This was on a F class target.

I also shot another group after this with 11 rounds of a slightly different load. No scope changes and the gun shot 7 X's and 4 10's and again wasn't worried about the wind at all. When I noticed the wind picking up slightly as it pushed 2 of my rounds into the 10 ring. I took the next round and held a wide left on in the X ring and it came up almost a perfect center X.

 

[Down South]

Definitely got something to work with there Frank!.........

 

[Dgd6mm]

147 ELDX. 260AI. 2750 FPS Bartlein 8 twist.
586-30x yesterday. 3 by 500 FClass match.
Shot first match clean. 200-12x.
Third match. S1 10, S2 9. 1st shot for score, a zero. Dropped 4 more points the rest of the day. This is the second time this has happened. Cost me 2nd place yesterday. Cost me a top three finish two matches prior.
This barrel shoots 1/4 MOA when testing 140 Bergers, 140 ELD, and 140 Hornady HPBT. I wanted to use the 147s for higher BC. They shoot great as well if they stay together.
I build multiple rifles every year that shoot 1/4 MOA. I bore scope every chamber and personally test every rifle before handing them over to the customer. This is a Bullet issue, hands down. I will contact Hornady for sure. I will not, however, use these again whether fixed or not. Too much preparation goes into competitive shooting to have to worry about dropping 10 points occasionally.
My $0.02

Corey Hager
Hager Custom Rifles

What compelled you to shoot them in another match ? Especially after your issues and possibly hearing or reading about others similar results shooting them. Just wondering.

 

[Brians356]

What compelled you to shoot them in another match ? Especially after your issues and possibly hearing or reading about others similar results shooting them. Just wondering.

That was my question as well. I'm wondering what would have been the max reward obtainable from a somewhat higher BC, vs the obvious risk. Not that I might not have rolled the dice myself, but as always "... you takes yer chances."
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[Area51]

The field data remains constant.
Thx for the update Cory.
I resolved my problem some time ago.
Stored properly in the closet garbage bin takes scare of this reliability and match loosing failure issue.

 

[Brians356]

The field data remains constant.
Thx for the update Cory.
I resolved my problem some time ago.
Stored properly in the closet garbage bin takes scare of this reliability and match loosing failure issue.

Geeze, what are scrap copper and lead prices now? Recycle them for a small recompense.
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[sbhooper]

Recycle them to my address.

 

[JimT]

The field data remains constant.
Thx for the update Cory.
I resolved my problem some time ago.
Stored properly in the closet garbage bin takes scare of this reliability and match loosing failure issue.

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I still don’t understand why you continue to flaunt that picture?

 

[Evan]

I still don’t understand why you continue to flaunt that picture?

To be an Internet troll.

 

[johnfred1965]

SMH. Obviously you haven't actually read the info on the tips and just went by internet ramblings. Try to actually read and not go by the internet. A litle Cliff note for you. Tips were not melting. They were deforming enough to effect BC which doesn't need to be much.

The gentleman above didn't mention finding any deformed tips in his search of the dirt. If the tips warm enough to deform from aerodynamic pressure, I would think hitting the dirt berm would misshape them a bit also.

 

[Rob01]

The gentleman above didn't mention finding any deformed tips in his search of the dirt. If the tips warm enough to deform from aerodynamic pressure, I would think hitting the dirt berm would misshape them a bit also.

All I can tell you is what the senior ballistician from Hornady Dave Emery explained to me when discussing the change to the Heat Shield tips. There was slight deformity enough to effect the BC during flight on the Doppler. There are papers written on it if you wanted to read the pages of data.

 

[Area51]

I still don’t understand why you continue to flaunt that picture?

Cuz its a great one. A pic is worth a thousand words.

 

[Area51]

To be an Internet troll.

 

[Area51]

Recycle them to my address.

If we were more local i would have given them all to you. But we do not, i am sorry.
They have been recycled to the earth, the earth fill.

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[JimT]

Cuz its a great one. A pic is worth a thousand words.

In your case it appears to be 999 words short of 1000!!

 

[Area51]

In your case it appears to be 999 words short of 1000!!

 

[Hager Custom Rifles]

What compelled you to shoot them in another match ? Especially after your issues and possibly hearing or reading about others similar results shooting them. Just wondering.

I contested the shot the first time it happened. The ruling was a miss. My spotter/scorer said he saw the vapor trail all the way to the target. Therefore, I wasn't 100% convinced that was the right call so I kept shooting them. After another incident the other day, I'm now questioning the bullets. It has caused all kinds of doubt to enter my mind.