147 ELD coming apart

[ronsatspokane]

Did you use a brush with the Iosso?

What are you using the gun for? F Class? PRS? Just curious.

I’d use a Sierra 140 or 142 and or a 140 Amax or a 147 ELDM.

Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels

Hello Frank, I used a mop smeared with ISSO to clean the carbon layer out of the first 6-8 inches of the barrel. Verified that it was being taken out with a bore scope.

The plan was to use this for F Class.

Was testing with 140 Berger Hybrids early on. Could not get them to shoot the way I needed. They were shooting less than MOA but only just. Had no problems with the bullets blowing up and I was running higher velocities and charge weights with them. Still, MOA is not good enough for F Class. Decided to try the heavier 147 ELDM's even though every time I move to something other than Bergers I have been disappointed. At first I thought I found it. It liked the heavier bullet much better. Down to half MOA with a couple of potential nodes. Then one day early in load development I had what I thought was a miss. No, I said to myself, it must have gone through the same hole. Couple more rounds of load dev and the last time I was out I had three of them blow up. The evidence was clear on one of them what with the sideways hole in the target way off my POA. It's not the barrel, it's the bullets. Same thing others have reported. When they blow up, well, hate to see those two orange markers pop up at the bottom of the target.

Love the barrel by the way. It'll shoot. Just need to find a bullet that will hold together. I do have 30 more loaded with fed 210M primers and charges .2 grains apart around one of the nodes in the middle of the load range. I'll shoot those with just having the barrel swabbed out with Hoppes and see if they hold together. Leaving the carbon that Hoppes won't take out this time around. If if they don't blow up I'd still be concerned about using them in a match.

 

[Jdne5b]

What's the bore size on these barrels blowing up the 147s?

Would going to a larger bore possibly help?

 

[10XSHOOTER]

At a 600 yd any any this last week. one shooter was shooting 6.5 Creed with 147's factory ammo. half were coming apart. He was not a happy camper with the factory ammo. Sorry did not get his lot number.

 

[STOMP442]

Hello Frank, I used a mop smeared with ISSO to clean the carbon layer out of the first 6-8 inches of the barrel. Verified that it was being taken out with a bore scope.

The plan was to use this for F Class.

Was testing with 140 Berger Hybrids early on. Could not get them to shoot the way I needed. They were shooting less than MOA but only just. Had no problems with the bullets blowing up and I was running higher velocities and charge weights with them. Still, MOA is not good enough for F Class. Decided to try the heavier 147 ELDM's even though every time I move to something other than Bergers I have been disappointed. At first I thought I found it. It liked the heavier bullet much better. Down to half MOA with a couple of potential nodes. Then one day early in load development I had what I thought was a miss. No, I said to myself, it must have gone through the same hole. Couple more rounds of load dev and the last time I was out I had three of them blow up. The evidence was clear on one of them what with the sideways hole in the target way off my POA. It's not the barrel, it's the bullets. Same thing others have reported. When they blow up, well, hate to see those two orange markers pop up at the bottom of the target.

Love the barrel by the way. It'll shoot. Just need to find a bullet that will hold together. I do have 30 more loaded with fed 210M primers and charges .2 grains apart around one of the nodes in the middle of the load range. I'll shoot those with just having the barrel swabbed out with Hoppes and see if they hold together. Leaving the carbon that Hoppes won't take out this time around. If if they don't blow up I'd still be concerned about using them in a match.

If the Bergers won't shoot its time to try the 142 Sierra. It's a very good bullet and will not give up anything to the Berger.

 

[Mr.Knowit all]

Thanks Frank!!!

 

[CPerry]

I was blowing up 147 ELD-M's out of a 1-8 Savage. I had the rifle checked and we found nothing wrong. I could shoot the 140 ELD-M's with no problem but I swapped over to the 142 SMK's and haven't had a problem. I'm currently working a load for the 140 Hybrid Target Bergers to see how they do. I contacted Hornady and they claimed to never have heard of such thing.

We were shooting a high angle class this past weekend in Utah and my buddy was shooting the 147's out of a 18" PR barrel with no problems. Temp was around 104 and elevation was 5300. He was sending them quite a bit slower than I do at sea level. I was running the 142 SMK's at around 2850fps.