YouTube Suspends Major Gun Manufacturer, Bans Instructional Gun Videos

[bobinpa]

I've removed the troll, so we'll see.

Thank you. Hopefully we can get back to civility.

 

[muleman69]

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Is this a goverment agent or a leftie trying to tune Into CNN .

 

[hogpatrol]

Is this a goverment agent or a leftie trying to tune Into CNN .

Won't name names but it was directed at one of our more prolific forum trolls.

 

[muleman69]

Won't name names but it was directed at one of our more prolific forum trolls.

Okay I hear ya ,I believe the boss fired the troll

 

[Flouncer]

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7667605?hl=en

Either they have recently modified, or have not been enforcing existing policy, but here is what's found at the above link:

Yes Ed I agree and you illustrate what I meant, I think !! The videos of assembly and shooting are unchanged. Manufacturing is another area and I don't qualify my statement that way. I stand by what I posted. Thanks for being reasonable in a flammable arena.

 

[ED3]

Yes Ed I agree and you illustrate what I meant, I think !! The videos of assembly and shooting are unchanged. Manufacturing is another area and I don't qualify my statement that way. I stand by what I posted. Thanks for being reasonable in a flammable arena.

It's interesting to observe: All over the Internet, people are up in arms (so to speak), about youtube changing their policies on 1 April. There are even videos on youtube ranting about it.
But when one looks at youtube's policy page:
* It does't appear to be an enforced policy
* The policy page is undated
* There is no mention of changes on April 1st.
I have challenged a few people on other boards to produce something from youtube about any pending changes, and have yet to have seen anything.

Being a firm believer in market forces, should something changed at youtube, a tremendous opportunity will be presented for someone to to fill the void and prosper.
Time will tell.

 

[Flouncer]

Yeah Ed well spoken. We'll see here in a few days. Cheers !!

 

[spitfire_er]

Nothing yet, I've got some videos up and they are still going.

 

[Flouncer]

The video I have bookmarked for over a year is still there.

We can all relax now, OK ??

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

Manufacturing unserialized lowers still there.

 

[ED3]

WHAT???
The world didn't end at midnight?

 

[hogpatrol]

WHAT???
The world didn't end at midnight?

It was supposed to end on 1/1/2000

 

[Steve Ladino]

First, I'm not trying to start anything political here, so if this is "out of line" or if it gets derailed please delete it.

I wonder if this will effect guys like Eric Cortina and his instructional videos....

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/21...n-manufacturer-bans-instructional-gun-videos/

Really big opportunity for " Accurate Shooter "

 

[bobinpa]

WHAT???
The world didn't end at midnight?

Nope, doesn't look like it..... There are a few things to consider with this thread, first as I have said before, this was an information only thread, just a kind of heads up. I never meant for this to be a "chicken little" thread. Also, I don't think that anybody ever said that You tube was going to delete existing content, nor would I expect them to do it on Easter Sunday. IIRC they were going to start banning some content in April, which gives them a month to start doing whatever they want..... Some very knowledgeable people have some good content on there and I hope it stays, but if it doesn't, so be it.... It's You Tube's right to do whatever they want. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens, if anything.
I hope you all had a wonderful Easter!

 

[spitfire_er]

Thought I read somewhere though that it was suppose to take affect April 17th. May have been the email Google sent to me.

 

[bobinpa]

Really big opportunity for " Accurate Shooter "

Yep, it could be.... but I think the boss has enough to do. It would have to be a pay to play set up for it to be worth his effort. He does enough for free as it is.

 

[spitfire_er]

Really big opportunity for " Accurate Shooter "

Half the incentive for people like me to take a lot of time setting up for, preparing, possibly buying extra tooling, recording, taking 2-4x longer doing a project, then editing, and posting a video was the potential to make a few bucks on it eventually. Usually not much, but it adds up over time. That drives quality material. If someone else were to take these videos on, the quality (albeit, many are not good) will not be there for many of the videos unless there is a revenue generator for the Creator.

I've spent anywhere from 10 minutes on a video to going on two years for a video that may not be allowed in a month.

 

[ED3]

Nope, doesn't look like it..... There are a few things to consider with this thread, first as I have said before, this was an information only thread, just a kind of heads up. I never meant for this to be a "chicken little" thread. Also, I don't think that anybody ever said that You tube was going to delete existing content, nor would I expect them to do it on Easter Sunday. IIRC they were going to start banning some content in April, which gives them a month to start doing whatever they want..... Some very knowledgeable people have some good content on there and I hope it stays, but if it doesn't, so be it.... It's You Tube's right to do whatever they want. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens, if anything.
I hope you all had a wonderful Easter!

My contention throughout the discussion here, and elsewhere, is that there is, across the interwebs, a cacophony of outrage describing the impending youtube action. The problem is: when questioned about their sources, all I ever heard was basically, "...on the internet...", often pointing to some youtube video. Try as I might, I found nothing on any of youtube's policy pages that pointed to any impending changes. There firearms policy, as stated is more severe than practice, but it is also undated, and makes no mention of any greater, future enforcement.
That said, you posted as an informational thread, which is respectful. So I'll ask you, respectfully: Where did you get the information you posted?

 

[bobinpa]

My contention throughout the discussion here, and elsewhere, is that there is, across the interwebs, a cacophony of outrage describing the impending youtube action. The problem is: when questioned about their sources, all I ever heard was basically, "...on the internet...", often pointing to some youtube video. Try as I might, I found nothing on any of youtube's policy pages that pointed to any impending changes. There firearms policy, as stated is more severe than practice, but it is also undated, and makes no mention of any greater, future enforcement.
That said, you posted as an informational thread, which is respectful. So I'll ask you, respectfully: Where did you get the information you posted?

The only place I could get it, the internet. A friend sent me the link I posted in my original post, I opened it, read it and thought, damn, that's going to stink if it happens. My first concern was guys like Eric Cortina and Alex Wheeler who have spent a lot of time and effort making and posting valuable videos trying to help people be better reloaders & shooters. My intention was to give people a "heads up" so that if they wanted to try and download that content for future use, they could. So to answer your question, since I don't personally know anyone that works for You Tube, I got my info from the internet.... which means that it could be just bad propaganda or maybe You Tube put it out there to gauge what the backlash would be... who knows. Maybe it will never happen, but maybe it will.....

 

[spitfire_er]

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7667605?hl=en

Either they have recently modified, or have not been enforcing existing policy, but here is what's found at the above link:

The above link was recently created. To my knowledge as a Creator the only restrictions they had were the obvious ones where people were breaking the law/swearing....etc..

This announcement was sent out to creators a few weeks back stating that these new changes would soon be taking affect, and I believe it was going to be done starting in April. This was announced a couple weeks after the last incident.

For some reason the email I received, I can no longer find, but maybe I deleted it.

If it's like the new policy about swearing, it may take several months for them to fully implement it. I had one video that I used a few choice words, but not swear words, and they removed monitization from that video for the "questionable words". That was about a year ago and revenue for most creators fell to half of what they were making due to the drop in advertisers. That's what they said anyways.

I've been cutting back on putting up content over the past year due to decreased revenue, and increased regulations. Up until about a year ago I had a nice exponential growth line across all of my channel.

It has been headed in a downhill direction for quite some time now. Unless you feel like being a blogger or having people watch you pop pimples, it seems that YouTube is going to be a gun free zone sooner rather than later.