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Lyman Borecam vs Hawkeye Borescope - one man's opinions

Lapua40X

California Hunter Education Instructor
A little background.

I used my Hawkeye for slightly over a year and liked it very much. The only refitting I made was to center bore a length of nylon rod to replace the rifle's bolt so that the probe had better support when slipped into the barrel. But I'm getting old and bending over to peer into an eyepiece behind the rifle isn't as easy as it once was so I decided to try the Lyman Borecam.

The Hawkeye can be focused to provide a very sharp image and, once I adjusted my brain to work with the mirrored view (reversed as it is) it did an excellent job for my purposes. It offers a nice depth of field that I found took some of the strain out of focusing on surfaces I was interested in viewing. It requires some patience to assemble all the parts to the trombone style probe system (battery powered light source, slipping one tube over the other, etc.) but that may have been due to a flaw in my character. Patience is not my greatest virtue. The Hawkeye's probe can be rotated more than 360 degrees in any direction with ease and it has a notch in the rotational control ring that permits the user to rotate back to a previous point using "braille" techniques. But without an extra pair of hands, it's difficult to adjust the intensity of the light source while looking through the scope. When everything is adjusted the images are clear and as steady as the hands of the user can hold the probe in position. Taking pictures through the scope requires special equipment that increases the cost considerably. There was no need for a hard case to store and protect the Hawkeye because the box it ships in is plenty good enough to handle that responsibility.

The Hawkeye is comparatively expensive: $700 - $800 everywhere I shopped.

The Borecam is self focusing. However, IMO, its depth of field is not as broad as the Hawkeye. Satisfactory, to be sure, but just not quite as broad. Assembly of the components is child's play and involves plug, plug, plug, and go, using USB style connections. The package includes power adapters for virtually every conceivable electrical outlet in the world and adjusting the amount of light emitted to the area under inspection is as easy as simply pressing a single button on the portable console. Because it relies on a hard wired connection to the console, the probe of the Borecam resists being rotated. I found that annoying but I'll get used to it I'm sure. I also found that the guide I had used with the Hawkeye didn't work as well with the Borecam. Probably a depth of field issue described earlier. But because the probe doesn't rotate as freely as the Hawkeye it didn't matter much; the probe on the Borecam was actually easier to reposition without the guide. One of the best features I found is that I can record images instantly with a push of a button and view them on any device that can process digital images. While trying to adjust for depth of field, the image on the screen reminded me of those ultra-sound images commonly shown on TV. You know, the joyful expectant parent smiling at the first images of the fetus. But once of got the hang of it everything came together nicely. Much like the Hawkeye, I found that the box it ships in is plenty good enough to handle storage and protection of the system.

The Borecam is a darn good value, IMO, running from about $200 - $260 everywhere I shopped.

With an average price difference of over $500 I'm convinced I made the right choice by adding the Borecam to my shooting equipment inventory.
 
Thank you @Lapua40X (George)

I have been looking for this kind of review.

I just could never bring myself to pop for the Hawkeye. Old technology. Very good old technology but very expensive.

I purchased several digital bore cam systems not originally intended for firearms. Depth of field issues. Resolution issues. Ok, not great. I can see fouling, however pitting and erosion are hard to see.

I had been waiting for just this sort of review of the Lyman. I have spent less on the inferior systems all combined than the Lyman so I got my value, however, I will be getting the Lyaman ASAP.
 
Just occurred to me that if I had done a complete report it would have included some images as examples. My apologies. I'll try to get some of those up today.

Later today ...........................

1. Alligator in rifling
2. Chamber shoulder area (it's clean)
3. Scratch in throat area
4. Throat erosion and carbon buld up
 

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A little background.

I used my Hawkeye for slightly over a year and liked it very much. The only refitting I made was to center bore a length of nylon rod to replace the rifle's bolt so that the probe had better support when slipped into the barrel. But I'm getting old and bending over to peer into an eyepiece behind the rifle isn't as easy as it once was so I decided to try the Lyman Borecam.

The Hawkeye can be focused to provide a very sharp image and, once I adjusted my brain to work with the mirrored view (reversed as it is) it did an excellent job for my purposes. It offers a nice depth of field that I found took some of the strain out of focusing on surfaces I was interested in viewing. It requires some patience to assemble all the parts to the trombone style probe system (battery powered light source, slipping one tube over the other, etc.) but that may have been due to a flaw in my character. Patience is not my greatest virtue. The Hawkeye's probe can be rotated more than 360 degrees in any direction with ease and it has a notch in the rotational control ring that permits the user to rotate back to a previous point using "braille" techniques. But without an extra pair of hands, it's difficult to adjust the intensity of the light source while looking through the scope. When everything is adjusted the images are clear and as steady as the hands of the user can hold the probe in position. Taking pictures through the scope requires special equipment that increases the cost considerably. There was no need for a hard case to store and protect the Hawkeye because the box it ships in is plenty good enough to handle that responsibility.

The Hawkeye is comparatively expensive: $700 - $800 everywhere I shopped.

The Borecam is self focusing. However, IMO, its depth of field is not as broad as the Hawkeye. Satisfactory, to be sure, but just not quite as broad. Assembly of the components is child's play and involves plug, plug, plug, and go, using USB style connections. The package includes power adapters for virtually every conceivable electrical outlet in the world and adjusting the amount of light emitted to the area under inspection is as easy as simply pressing a single button on the portable console. Because it relies on a hard wired connection to the console, the probe of the Borecam resists being rotated. I found that annoying but I'll get used to it I'm sure. I also found that the guide I had used with the Hawkeye didn't work as well with the Borecam. Probably a depth of field issue described earlier. But because the probe doesn't rotate as freely as the Hawkeye it didn't matter much; the probe on the Borecam was actually easier to reposition without the guide. One of the best features I found is that I can record images instantly with a push of a button and view them on any device that can process digital images. While trying to adjust for depth of field, the image on the screen reminded me of those ultra-sound images commonly shown on TV. You know, the joyful expectant parent smiling at the first images of the fetus. But once of got the hang of it everything came together nicely. Much like the Hawkeye, I found that the box it ships in is plenty good enough to handle storage and protection of the system.

The Borecam is a darn good value, IMO, running from about $200 - $260 everywhere I shopped.

With an average price difference of over $500 I'm convinced I made the right choice by adding the Borecam to my shooting equipment inventory.

Very well articulated. Thank you for taking your valued time to share your experience.

DJ
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Now how can you do this with a Hawkeye?

My usage of the Lyman is literally after each rifle I clean. It's so simple and easy, even I can do it.
 
Surely you jest. Thousands of dollars for a borescope?

Compared to a $200 Lyman the results are close. For serious shooters even the $200 Lyman gives a little pause until you use one. The length of pause for spending thousands on one is, for most of us "Joes", forever.
 
Lapua40X, you mentioned with the Lyman Borecam that you can record images with the push of a button and view then on any device that can process digital images. Could you elaborate on how you can view the images on other devices. Thanks.

Jim
 
Sure, Jim.
Theres a SD card in the console. When you want to collect an image of what's on the screen you simply press "Capture". An "icon" appears center screen to validate that the image was collected. When you want to view your image you can use any device equiped with a USB port. Just remove the SD card from the console, insert it into the USB adapter that comes with the digital borescope, and plug it into your computer or other device that accepts the adapter. I would imagine that there are also after market adapter/adapters that will provide an interface with other digital devices that will process .jpg images.
 
Sure, Jim.
Theres a SD card in the console. When you want to collect an image of what's on the screen you simply press "Capture". An "icon" appears center screen to validate that the image was collected. When you want to view your image you can use any device equiped with a USB port. Just remove the SD card from the console, insert it into the USB adapter that comes with the digital borescope, and plug it into your computer or other device that accepts the adapter. I would imagine that there are also after market adapter/adapters that will provide an interface with other digital devices that will process .jpg images.
There are many usb / card readers available. ebay or amazon with a search. But the one that comes with the Lyman is perfectly suited for the task.
 
The one 'improvement I've tried so far is finding some way to make it ride a little more 'centered' in the bore... my first attempt used wraps of painters tape on the wand; may go with o-rings for the next try.
 
The one 'improvement I've tried so far is finding some way to make it ride a little more 'centered' in the bore... my first attempt used wraps of painters tape on the wand; may go with o-rings for the next try.


Using (3) small o-rings spread out along the tube has assisted me in keeping it more consistent and relatively centered in the bore.
 
I purchased a length of nylon rod, cut it to the length of the action and bored a hole through it's long axis just large enough to allow the probe to pass through. It worked very nicely. Boring a piece that actually relicated the distance between lands would probably work better but the walls of the rod, once bored, could get mighty thin and difficult to control. I may try the "O" ring idea. That sounds workable - so long as I don't lose one of 'em and forget about it ;)
 
That bore picture with my Lyman is a normal one somewhere in the middle of a barrel. I do not remember what gun or when I took it. Lighting is what you get with the Lyman. This picture is a quality that all of my Lyman usage has.

Think this one shows 5R rifling:

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