Those of you that do you own action work, are the 40x actions any truer than its brother the 700 ? People want to charge more because it's a "40x" BUT is it really worth it ? If I choose to accurize do I gain anything by looking for the 40x ? To really start an argument how good are Savage actions in the mix ?
Accurizing a Rem. 40x vrs. a Rem. 700 action
- Thread starter gtl1946
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good question on the rems!
Alex Wheeler
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Some customs aren't even true. When it comes to a mass produced action its a chance you take no matter the brand.
If you are going to truly "blueprint" either of them, remember that they are basically the exact same action, so after a complete "accurizing" there should be no discernible difference, as you will have brought both of them to the same point.
You have exactly the same probability of having "issues" with a 40X as with a 700. A 40X is nothing more than a single shot 700. There were even some repeater 40X's if that makes any sense. There is no more work involved in truing a 40X than a 700 and the cost to do either one should be the same.
Northridge
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In my experience, depending on the manufacturing run of Remington actions some are very soft and flex easily and can be a tuning nightmare, or even getting a soft one setting in a fixture Pryor to truing correct and with out induced distortion is a test of patience. The 40x would be my 1st choice considering the above concerns. It is a single shot and is stiffer with less chance of deflection. Both can be improved though.
Shawn williams
Shawn williams
In my opinion the accuracy potential is so close to the same that it would be practically impossible to tell the difference. It would take extensive testing to prove one better than the other. I have trued 700s that shot as well as any 40-X that I have done. Bedding the 40-X single shot is a bit easier since you don't have to deal with the mag cut. 700s don't seem suffer from rigidity problems if bedded correctly. Lousy bedding is a VERY common problem even on rifles that have been "bedded".
SBS
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Single shot actions are stiffer and on average produce better accuracy. See what BR shooters use -- all single shots. So if a little stiffer action is worth it to you, get a single shot 40X action. I have quite a few of them on varmint rifles. The repeater 40X action has no more potential than a 700, so it's a waste of money to pay more for one of those actions.
Dusty Stevens
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The only advantage a 40x has is better bedding. The stiffness is a non issue. The 40x actions are no better trued than a 700. Never understood the higher prices. Same crap barrels, same shoddy tolerances
Absolutely correct. If there is no stress in the bedding, the rigidity of the action becomes a much less of an influence.
I have both in .308 and the 40X bolt feels heavier. Can't explain it, but it does, or did. Sold the 700 and now have only the 40X - repeater. It IS a great rifle, BUT a competitive shooter who is also a professional gunsmith (Yavapai) did all the work on it. The big draw for me (at the time) was that the 40 X repeater was clip slotted and could be rapidly reloaded with stripper clips. Not a real big deal for most of the gents on here, but if you're looking for a clip slotted action it can be problematic - according to the gentleman who built mine. If that's something you want, and the action you have isn't already clip slotted, I'd be careful about Jimmy Crack Corn trying to do this for me in his tool shed. Go with a pro, and don't be cheap with him.
To make a long story nauseating, unless you have sentimental attachment to the action, you might be better off with a custom action to start with. I like Stiller.
God Bless America,
Scarface 26
To make a long story nauseating, unless you have sentimental attachment to the action, you might be better off with a custom action to start with. I like Stiller.
God Bless America,
Scarface 26
LarryDScott
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I own 5 40XBR actions, and not a single one was true from the factory.
They all now have a trued receiver face,bolt face, lapped bolt lugs
and surface ground recoil lugs, all of which, should have been done, before
they left the custom shop. LDS
Larry,
Where the threads checked or trued on your 5 actions? Just curious.
Regards, Paul
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