What is a good varmint pistol cal. ?

[sscoyote]

For fur hunting i use a custom XP 17 Mach IV/Burris 4-12X Compact plex reticle, which gets me to about 300 yds. at the long end with the bigger than 25 gr. bullets. This next yr. it'll be the same configuration in 20 BR with the 3-9X PFI 22 LR Rapid Reticle for coyotes out to 400-500 yds.

Post fur season coyotes it's a custom Striker 16" Broughton 9 twist 243 WSSM/4.5-14X Leup. VH reticle/tgt. elevation turret. This rig has been responsible for 2 coyotes beyond 500 yds. this last season in some wind.

 

[Rupe]

For a number of years I hunted groundhogs with a TC Contender 14 inch bull barrel, thumbhole pistol stock and 3-12 Burris chambered in 257 TCU. Recently I have been working with an XP-100 rear grip chambered in 22-250 with a 24X Weaver scope. This XP is proving to be a real shooter, giving me 1/4 inch groups at 100 yards with 55 gr Nosler BTs. Presently I am having a bench pistol built in 22BR.

Rupe

 

[sscoyote]

Here's the 243 WSSM Striker i use for late season coyotes that the kid in the foreground's trying to shoot. The kid in the background is his brother, and he's shooting a Thor 6.5X50R.

 

[Forum Boss]

HMMMM.Very interesting.I don't see the difference between an action from Midway and a dissasembled 700 rifle.Go figger.

There's a world of difference. If one takes a previous manfacturered rifle and converts it into a pistol you have manufactured a short barreled rifle, an NFA item. Here's the gist of what I was told by the ATF several years ago.

A factory action that left it's facilities and was distributed as an action only that never was documented and sold as a complete rifle can be made into a pistol.

I was also told that if one takes a pistol and converts it to a rifle that when it sold and documented as a rifle, it can no longer be converted back to a pistol. Mike

Mike--important post. Thanks for clarifying this point. :thumb:

The ATF rules may seem illogical but we must abide by them nonetheless. :,

 

[harvey13118]

I've read this thread a dozen or so times.

I think I have a grip on the part about not being able to convert a rifle to a pistol. I would have to assume there is a way to with documentation and other paper work.

QUESTION:,I'm not playing Devils Advocate). If I bought an Encore rifle could I just buy the pistol grips, short barrel...

 

[457ciSBC]

I've read this thread a dozen or so times.

I think I have a grip on the part about not being able to convert a rifle to a pistol. I would have to assume there is a way to with documentation and other paper work.

QUESTION:,I'm not playing Devils Advocate). If I bought an Encore rifle could I just buy the pistol grips, short barrel...

SBR PROCESS:
First and foremost, you must ensure that SBR's are lawful in your state of residence. After that, and assuming SBR's are lawful in your state, you must:

- Complete and sign 2 copies of ATF Form 5320.1,Form 1 - Application to Make and Register a Firearm)
- Attach 1 passport-style photos to each Form 1,2 photos total)
- Obtain the original signature,certification) of the Chief Law Enforcement Officer,CLEO) in your area on each Form 1. The CLEO may be the Chief of Police of your town, the Sheriff of your county or a District Attorney, among others. Depending on where you live and who you know this may be easy to obtain, or it may be virtually impossible.
- Complete and sign 1 copy of ATF Form 5330.20 "Certificate of Compliance"
- Include 2 sets of your fingerprints on ATF FD-258 fingerprint cards.
- Send all forms,with attached photos) and fingerprint cards, along with a $200 check,or money order) for payment of the Making Tax, to the address on the form. I recommend Registered Mail for this.
- Wait
- Wait some more,Actually it's not forever ... it just feels that way when it's your first time)
- In approximately 30-180 days, ATF will return 1 original approved Form to you.

After ATF returns the approved form you may lawfully assemble or "make" your SBR. Please note that you cannot lawfully make the SBR until after ATF has approved your application, nor should you possess the parts to complete the SBR until you have received the approved form. As soon as you get the form back, make several GOOD copies of it, and put the original one up in a safe place like a fire safe, lock box or even better, a safe deposit box. The ATF WILL NOT replace it if you lose it, they will send you a crappy photo copy. REMEMBER, This form keeps your butt out of jail and from belonging to some guy named Bubba.


QUESTION:
BATFE in their infinite wisdom says it is legal to go back and forth between pistol and carbine versions with the Encore or Contender. ONLY IF you never have a pistol barrel installed on a frame at the same time as a carbine stock. A carbine stock with a pistol barrel is a SBR.


Mike

 

[buffalohunter]

I would look into .22-250 AI, shoots great in my Encore.

 

[Shooter32]

If you buy the Encore as a pistol and it is registered as a pistol you can convert it to a rifle but if you buy it as a rifle you cannot turn it in to a pistol :crazy:

 

[timuhoh]

When I was checking into building an ar-15 pistol the FFL holder had to specify from the manufacturer that it was going to be a pistol. When I picked the reciever up it had paper work from the factory stating that it was a pistol and could not be made into a rifle. The FFL 4473 form also stated it was a pistol of which I mace a copy to keep with the pistol. I don't know if this is a good idea but I hope it doesn't hurt. Don't let the men in black get you. Timuhoh