Your Favorite bore and carbon cleaner

[No manches"]

But have you looked with a borescope?

Yeah! What he said^

 

[scasa]

Anybody ever try carb and choke cleaner for carbon removal? I pulled the tuner off my .22 today and the muzzle was black, A wipe with carb cleaner on a paper towel and it was clean as new.

 

[AckleymanII]

I know ask a question to 100 people and get a 100 answers.

I just got a teslong bore scope and went through most of my guns. All were pretty good as to no copper build up. BUT several had extreme amounts of carbon. I never realized it was that bad.

What I normally do is I take a foaming bore cleaner And fill the bore. Wipe it out after about 5 min then fill it back up and let it sit over night with the muzzle on a old sock. The sock lets me know how bad it was fouled by the colors that soak into the sock. I then fill it back up and leave it for another night. Then wipe out and apply a light coat of oil and that is it.

I don't like to use mechanical means to clean my barrels.

May God have Mercy on your Soul!

 

[danny]

I have been having good luck with Patch Out Wipe Out, but like others say, it does little to nothing for carbon. People say to clean at the range while warm, but that isn't really a solution in my case. I have figured out that I must use a bronze brush with Patch Out Wipe Out to "bust" the carbon. People seem to think that nothing chemical alone will break the carbon. If that is so, I think that Patch Out Wipe Out does as good as I will be able to find. It really does well on Copper. I used to use Shooter's Choice. I tried some of that after using Patch Out Wipe Out and it was almost like using water. Has it fallen out of favor?

Danny

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I highly recommend butchs bore shine along with bronze brushes

 

[Kracken McGraw]

I use oil and Carb-Out first with patches, seems to bring a lot of black out.Then the Accelerator and Patchout on patches plus bronze brushing. Patch-out seems a little sticky to me so I clean out with Naptha between products. I run a lightly oil patch of Clenz-oil last followed by a dry patch on good barrels. I still have a trace of black in the corners looking with the teslong, I want to try FreeAll in the process somewhere.

 

[358WCF]

I used to use Shooter's Choice. I tried some of that after using Patch Out Wipe Out and it was almost like using water. Has it fallen out of favor?

I tried Patch-out & a few others, but noticed when my bores got squeaky clean it took longer to settle down & start shooting small groups again. I have a number of factory barrels on my rifles if that matters. These are mostly sporters, & I only compete against myself, but have returned to the procedure I've been using since the '80s. Mr. Teslong showed that it wasn't such a bad regimen after all on a few pieces that were stored for quite a few years.

I use Shooter's Choice mixed with Kroil for regular after range cleaning usually cleaning about every 20 rounds. Two wet patches, about 10 strokes with a wet brass brush, 2 or 3 wet patches, then soak at least overnight or however long it sits (muzzle downward). A wet patch, then a dry one before shooting. Will do a deep clean if needed, but it hasn't been necessary yet.

I had a carbon ring problem in one rifle & scrubbed, brushed & screwed around with stuff for a week. Even Carb-out didn't touch it, but when checking again after 100 rounds it was gone. Apparently the Carb-out softened the carbon enough to get blown (or burned) out. Interested to try FreeAll & have some coming. Also trying colloidal graphite to see if I can tell the difference, but it's looking like a wash for getting that 1st shot into the group. Maybe it'll help with fouling build up.

 

[Gargoyle]

So, I saw copper in the grove in one place in my barrel. I imagined copper builds on the lands. What's up with that?

 

[BobABQ]

I prefer using Bore Tech cleaning products.

 

[gmr4]

Montana extreme copper killer. Use with a bronze brush.

This was posted awhile back but I found the recommendation and bought some Montana Extreme Copper Killer... was not feeling all that positive about it other than Alex recommended. I have a huge collection of solvents etc that don't work. Well I tried it today with bronze brush and it worked! One wet patch and let it sit 15 minutes.. another wet patch then rubbed with wet bronze brush.. probably 60 passes... patched out until patches clean then alcohol.... borescope and I'll be damned it looked like new. Usually after 70 rounds out of my 7PRCW and I scrub like crazy.. soak overnight then end up with abrasive. I know some of you have sworn by products on here that I could not get to do much... the soapy ones suck.

Top of bottle said : Warning Strong Odor" so naturally I sniffed it and it knocked me down.... I've got ventilation fan to outside from my shop or I would not use it... inside. Its good enough stuff I'd set up outside and clean.

Thanks Alex.. these little things count. Copper killer that takes it all out...

 

[SGT. Slaughter]

Yes it eats the brush. Brake clean after every use and you will get 2 or 3 cleaning sessions out of the brush. Buy the dozen packs from Brownells. You have to know that right after you brush there will be blue patches. Patch that out then let it sit 15 minutes and check for blue. About the only thing I find a nylon brush good for is polishing carbon, not removing it. Thats why I use nylon brushes inside my case necks.

So I'm understanding that the Montana extreme copper remover is a great carbon remover with a bronze brush? Do you use any other cleaning solvents or Ioso for carbon?

 

[Turkeytider]

Carbon is your worst so people could respond with a good carbon cleaner recommendation. That is a major issue with all the BR case variants, not copper fouling. There are a few good and purposeful carbon cleaners that work.

Bore Tech makes both a carbon cleaner and a couple combinations, like Extreme, that work well on carbon and also copper. For pure carbon one of the best is a product made to clean sinks, not guns. If you source the name be aware that id does flat out destroy carbon deposits. Patches come out dripping with a thick tar-like goo of carbon. The major problem is is destroys bluing. I mean takes bluing right off right now.
It could only be used on a full stainless product and then removed in a short time so there are no negative lingering affects.

Check out the Bore Tech products like Eliminator and C4. They work for carbon and are made to use on firearms.

C4 is a great carbon solvent and as a bonus will pick up some copper( NOT a dedicated copper remover, though. )

 

[gmr4]

So I'm understanding that the Montana extreme copper remover is a great carbon remover with a bronze brush? Do you use any other cleaning solvents or Ioso for carbon?

Yes removes it all…. No need for anything else.. I used a new bronze brush, one wet patch and let sit for 15 minutes.. then another wet patch… then wet the new bronze brush and brushed 60 strokes.. wet patch then patched clean dry patches 5-6.. then alcohol. Borescoped and it was really totally clean.

 

[SGT. Slaughter]

Thank you Sir.

 

[jonbearman]

Montana works really good for me as well. If it is really bad, then Iosso occasionally!

 

[jelenko]

Montana extreme copper killer. Use with a bronze brush.

Does Montana extreme bore cleaner work as well on just carbon?

 

[SteveUrban]

Hollands Witches Brew for smokeless. Ed’s red for BP and 22s.

 

[1911nut]

I’ve tried them all. Now I mix them all together. Works great. The foaming and brown smoke is a concern but I’m sure that’ll stop as the mixture mellows.

 

[M-61]

I don't like to use mechanical means to clean my barrels.

Meaning like what?

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Meaning like what?

Is my elbow a mechanism?