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Wipe Out Foam

Is it necessary or recommended to oil the bore after using Wipe Out foam. On the can it says its not necessary and that Wipe Out has rust preventatives in the foam.
 
During competition season, I do not oil the bore. It can take forever to get the barrel to settle down afterward. I leave it clean as possible after removing the foam. Before I put the rifle away for 6 months, I run an oily patch thru the bore.
 
Greyfox said:
If the folks who make the product say it's not necessary, why wouldn't you take their word for it?

Rick

Because the bore cleaning article says Wipe Out is water based and the author suggest following with an oil.
 
Ram said:
Greyfox said:
If the folks who make the product say it's not necessary, why wouldn't you take their word for it?

Rick

Because the bore cleaning article says Wipe Out is water based and the author suggest following with an oil.

Good answer. I can tell you that I've used Wipe Out and patch Out for at least 10 years. I've never used oil in the bore and never had an issue with rust. But that's just me.

Rick
 
Because the companys that make this bore cleaner want to sell it as an end all product. Just like a lot of companys, they simply lie.If you oil the bore, just wash it out with brakleen or something like it to remove the oil used as a protectant.
 
I treat it like any other bore cleaner and patch it out with rubbing alcohol, and a dry patch or two, followed by a little oil. My barrels usually settle down after a shot or two.

-nosualc
 
In his book Tony Boyer on page 201 says he uses lubrication after cleaning. See the picture.
 

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jonbearman said:
Because the companys that make this bore cleaner want to sell it as an end all product. Just like a lot of companys, they simply lie.If you oil the bore, just wash it out with brakleen or something like it to remove the oil used as a protectant.

Jon,
While I suppose you could be right, it doesn't make good business sense to me that they would lie about their product.

They have been in business quite a while. It wouldn't take long for a customer who followed their instructions and got rust to let it be known. I certainly haven't had the problem and I've not seen it show up on the various boards I frequent.

Rick
 
I use Wipe Out/Patch Out and IMO anything with a water base worries me long term. Probably just me being paranoid because I am sure they have done extensive testing with their product. After cleaning my bore with Patch Out I will dry the bore then run a patch of IPA dry it out and then protect the bore with a patch of Butch's gun oil. When I get to the range I will dry patch the bore followed by a IPA patch then a patch of Lock Ease.
 
Look at slip 2000 carbon garbage, they said it would dissolve carbon. It didn't even touch it.I called them and no answer,I emailed them,no answer so don't tell me these snake oil companys don't lie to sell their product. I don't trust any barrel be it chromemoly or stainless, It always gets oil in it while in storage. I have seen many barrels made of stainless with rust freckles all over them and quite a few with rust in the bore. I use wipe out and such, it works ok but it isn't Montana copper killer or 50 bmg solvent. I have cleaned with wipe out patch out and it will not remove the copper like advertised. It gets some out but when you hit it with good old ammonia base solvents the patches come out blue after cleaning with their product. This is my experience. Slip 2000 is absolutely worthless and they showed color pics of soaking a ar-15 bolt with baked on carbon and it just came right off. I soaked one for 2 days and guess what, Nothing came off. I could go on and on with advertising lies but my keyboard would start on fire.
 
Soooooo Mr. Bearman are you saying you WONT be buying anymore slip 2000? Just kidding. I use the BMG cleaner and man it works if you leave it in long enough you'll have the next caliber up. That stuff will clear out the garage in a hurry I learned to open the door. I use the foam cleaner also for light cleanings and it works good for me.

Very Respectfully
 
jonbearman said:
Look at slip 2000 carbon garbage, they said it would dissolve carbon. It didn't even touch it.I called them and no answer,I emailed them,no answer so don't tell me these snake oil companys don't lie to sell their product. I don't trust any barrel be it chromemoly or stainless, It always gets oil in it while in storage. I have seen many barrels made of stainless with rust freckles all over them and quite a few with rust in the bore. I use wipe out and such, it works ok but it isn't Montana copper killer or 50 bmg solvent. I have cleaned with wipe out patch out and it will not remove the copper like advertised. It gets some out but when you hit it with good old ammonia base solvents the patches come out blue after cleaning with their product. This is my experience. Slip 2000 is absolutely worthless and they showed color pics of soaking a ar-15 bolt with baked on carbon and it just came right off. I soaked one for 2 days and guess what, Nothing came off. I could go on and on with advertising lies but my keyboard would start on fire.

I think we're talking about two different things, but I don't own any stock in WO, so it's no problem for me. As long as you are doing what works for you then it's all good.

Rick
 
I'm with the guys that:

-don't blindly believe advertising claims.

-don't believe that a product that does everything, does any one thing well.

-try a product for themselves and make up their own mind about it.

-wouldn't join any club that would have them as a member.

Note: I use Wipe-Out not because it cleans better but because foams don't require a rod and patch to apply. i always oil a CM or SS barrel after cleaning because I sleep better after.
 
I feel in a match barrel it works fair but in anything else it just does not work for me. But to believe the advertising and saying that no company makes up head lines to promote their product is up to the beholder I guess. In the long run it will either disprove itself or it works fantastic. We all have our favorite products and we use them with confidence. I really don't think anything on the market due to the epa is strong enough so brushing isn't necessary , I always brush a bore after an afternoon of hard shooting. All the brushless cleaners out there cant get hard carbon out without at least some brushing. I used the wipeout brushless foam and all it did was dry up and I ended up having to use the stuff that you are not supposed to inhale to get it out . So for me and others it is business as usual with our favorite petro chemical solvents with ammonia to get the copper and carbon removed the best we can. The wipe out carbon remover does actually seem to work but I am sticking by the Montana stuff for now until they improve the wipeout so it really does a thorough job.
 
If they have made anything that works better than Montana copper killer or 50 bmg solvent,( One in the same) i would like to know what it is!

And if you use a aluminum jigs then you know when all crud is out!!

Just my .02 worth

T 700
 

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