Dang all these flags look awesome. The MTM is more my budget . Might have to save up a little. I would also have to get a case to transport something so nice. I only shoot public land and the roads require high clearance 4x4 for some of them. Everything has to be in a hard case.
Wind Flags?
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Frankly, anything is better than nothing but once you see the value in good flags, like so many things, you're probably better to buy once and be done.
This is extremely sound advice in my opinion. The most important aspect is the OP recognizes the value of monitoring wind and learning from it. Wind is the bane of our sport, just examine wind drift charts and one will quickly see the truth of that statement.
While I use a simple method at the range (ribbons) because I am cheap and the AR guys would splatter anything more sophisticated that I will put up at mid-range, the professional flags are no doubt better and more can be learned from using them.
I firmly believe that, other than your example of mirage, every shot fired without flags is wasted.
In short range BR that maybe true but many long range BR shooters develop excellent ammunition at 1000 yards with only a simple ribbon near the target.
jimmymac
Jim McGregor
Practicing with no flags while concentrating on mirage only is a worthwhile endeavor. Shots are certainly not wasted when you approach it as a learning experience.
Right. Mirage and learning how to read it is of value. Especially when used in conjunction with flags. The two agree...sometimes. Lol!
You said a mouthful. That flag vs mirage can drive a guy crazy at times. The question is, Where is the truth?
...on the target.
Use a hand drill with a concrete bit.
I use Rick Graham's flags. I used survey tape on wires for years. Adding real flags was like an epihony moment.
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jimmymac
Jim McGregor
One truth for me is to never, ever shoot when the mirage it is not in agreement with the flags. Recipe for disaster.
Lol, sometimes the truth is ugly. My conscious mind says boil, my unconscious mind wants it to not be boil. I have painfully learned to ignore my unconscious mind, usually. Lol.
I find that studying mirage to be very effective as flag’s tell me what just happened.
Your right. But there is this thing called a clock. Shooting, the act of delivering a bullet on target. Wind and mirage is a whole other sport. The latter can make the former seem very easy.
jimmymac
Jim McGregor
I have never had a situation where mirage was running opposite of the flags for a 7 minute match. All I have ever seen it is in spurts with agreement coming back around. He who only pays attention to the flags will eventually get burnt.
Come to the Southfork Groundhog Match in Pa and trust the mirage you see and you might just change your mind certain days. Same thing for the St Thomas shoot. You will go home shaking your head. Don't get too caught up on absolutes.
jimmymac
Jim McGregor
Are you using flags in those matches?
Your correct but I also belive it cuts both ways. But the over ruling thrust of this thread is most important. Shooting without flags is shooting blindfolded most of the time. Then of course there are times the is little or no mirage.
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