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Why did Remington Short Chamber all these R700 barreled actions from the custom shop and how did they finish them off?

hoz53

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I just got a couple of the short chambered R700 barreled actions available through PTG that supposedly came from the Rem custom shop. Why did Rem short chamber these and then torque the barrels on? How did they finish them off? With a reamer and extension through back of action or removed barrel, dialed in lathe and do it the normal way?
Im just curious. My 2 are short chambered and I will remove the barrels and finish the chambers in the lathe.
Thanks
 
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The 'Custom Shop' was likely how Remington got them out of inventory, sidestepping normal dealer channels.
As PT&G was a tooling supplier to Remington, it was a natural fit. -Al
 
Remington chambers are roughed-in as part of the hammer forging process and finished with a pull through type reamer. -Al
About 4 years ago I was visiting with an older retired Remington employee and he told me that same thing. He said that the worker kept forward and downward pressure on the bolt handle and when the bolt closed they stopped the reamer.
It sounds a bit mickey mouse but from a production standpoint it makes perfect sense.

drover
 
About 4 years ago I was visiting with an older retired Remington employee and he told me that same thing. He said that the worker kept forward and downward pressure on the bolt handle and when the bolt closed they stopped the reamer.
It sounds a bit mickey mouse but from a production standpoint it makes perfect sense.

drover
Ah, fine craftsmanship.
 
About 4 years ago I was visiting with an older retired Remington employee and he told me that same thing. He said that the worker kept forward and downward pressure on the bolt handle and when the bolt closed they stopped the reamer.
It sounds a bit mickey mouse but from a production standpoint it makes perfect sense.

drover
I guess I should have to see that. Holding the bolt again a revolving reamer until it falls might be a sight.
 
Not so custom a custom shop. I know the actions were trued up by a local smith so some of this doesn't make sense.
For sure I am still trying to understand completely. My actions came with ptg bolts which I think ptg installed because the actions came with no bolts so I dont Think these bolts have been trued. They don’t even fit in the actions that well, so I think the just stuck “stock” bolts in there. At least mabie the actions are.
 
About 4 years ago I was visiting with an older retired Remington employee and he told me that same thing. He said that the worker kept forward and downward pressure on the bolt handle and when the bolt closed they stopped the reamer.
It sounds a bit mickey mouse but from a production standpoint it makes perfect sense.

drover
Sounds Like they didn’t use the latest available technology for sure.
 
The 'Custom Shop' was likely how Remington got them out of inventory, sidestepping normal dealer channels.
As PT&G was a tooling supplier to Remington, it was a natural fit. -Al
It seems all ptg has done to “finish“ these off was provide bolts, but that may be wrong. mine came without firing pin assemblies so I have to get the correct ones for these bolts.
 
So, I’m just gonna throw this out there for contemplation. In about 2008 - 2009 I spent time in the shop in Ilion. The guys there were very nice, knowledgeable, bend over backwards to make things right kind of guys. While there they were frustrated that they were tasked with the sporting line QC comebacks. As part of all that was going on, they had regular barreled actions that were at their disposal to fix issues with regular line products. There was little custom work going on at the time, and they had no tooling to make .224 barrels any longer. Now, these barreled actions that we all bought may have been ear tagged for the custom shop, but for what purpose? I do not believe mine were crafted in the Custom Shop. As far as what I know, Custom Shop barrels were button rifled, not hammer forged. Bore scope a 40x compared to a 700BDL or anything similar. You can usually see the advance marks in a hammer forged barrel.

About other things mentioned, in the regular factory you could watch the red hot ingots come out of a furnace and go into the hammer forge. They did not like visitors to stay there long because the ingots and furnace were hot as hades, and the hammer forge very loud. Although I watched this process on two occasions, I never heard or knew that the chamber was partially formed there. It very well could have been. I just did not notice or ask that detail. I also missed the chambering process in the regular factory somehow.

I think it bears mentioning that the Mike Walker Custom Shop, and what it was over the many years thereafter, ebbed and flowed in terms of what their primary tasks were. Obviously they were controlled by upper management. I’ll say it again, the guys there were super, Aces in terms of customer satisfaction.

Just observations at a snapshot in time.
 
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So, I’m just gonna throw this out there for contemplation. In about 2008 - 2009 I spent time in the shop in Ilion. The guys there were very nice, knowledgeable, bend over backwards to make things right kind of guys. While there they were frustrated that they were tasked with the sporting line QC comebacks. As part of all that was going on, they had regular barreled actions that were at their disposal to fix issues with regular line products. There was little custom work going on at the time, and they had no tooling to make .224 barrels any longer. Now, these barreled actions that we all bought may have been ear tagged for the custom shop, but for what purpose? I do not believe mine were crafted in the Custom Shop. As far as what I know, Custom Shop barrels were button rifled, not hammer forged. Bore scope a 40x compared to a 700BDL or anything similar. You can see the advance marks in a hammer forged barrel.

About other things mentioned, in the regular factory you could watch the red hot ingots come out of a furnace and go into the hammer forge. They did not like visitors to stay there long because the ingots and furnace were hot as hades, and the hammer forge very loud. Although I watched this process on two occasions, I never heard or knew that the chamber was partially formed there. It very well could have been. I just did not notice or ask that detail. I also missed the chambering process in the regular factory somehow.

I think it bears mentioning that the Mike Walker Custom Shop, and what it was over the many years thereafter, ebbed and flowed in terms of what their primary tasks were. Obviously they were controlled by upper management. I’ll say it again, the guys there were super, Aces in terms of customer satisfaction.

Just observations at a snapshot in time.
 

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