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Why a 6BR or 22BR and not a 22-250

Ok folks, I am going to order a Cooper Phoenix, I was all set to order it in 22-250, but after listening to some of the comments in this forum, I may be leaning toward a 22BR or 6BR. Now please be nice, I have had three 22-250's and it is one of my all time favorite cartridges and I will always own one, after all they are the "king of varminters". So let me hear some good, civil reasons why I should chamber my Phoenix in a 22BR or 6BR.
Thanks,
Dave T
 
The 6BR is probably more inherently accurate than the .22-250 and there is a better range of bullet choices in 6 mm. The barrel life will certainly be better with a 6BR that the .22-250. I do not own a .22 BR but it should do just about everything that the .22-250 does.

Excellent Lapua brass is available for both factory cartridges and the .22 BR is easily formed, so that is not an issue.
 
Dave T: It may boil down to your prime interest in what you want to do with the Cooper. I've had 3, 22-250 chamberings, excellent cartridge for what it was designed for: Varmint hunting, with very good accuracy as a bonus. Over the last 5 to 6 years I've been able to compare a very accurate factory Remington 700 ( 26" fluted, stainless, 1-14 varmint contour) with several of my 6BR's, both 14 & 8 twists, and in every comparison where accuracy was the consideration, the 6BR came out the clear "winner". Just recently pulled the barrel from that Remington, and it also wears a Krieger 14 twist heavy contour 6BR barrel now. I know in this instance I'm comparing a factory barrel to custom hand-lapped ones, but I previousely had a Hart 14 twist in 22-250, & while an excellent shooter, it also did not meet the accuracy standards of the 6BR ctgs. All 3 22-250 barrels were toast at a documented count of between 2300 & 2400 rds. fired. My highest count 14 twist 6BR now has 1680 rds. fired with not a trace of firecracking in the throat, as seen with my borescope, so I'm expecting to exceed the 2300/2400 of the 22-250. As sleepygator said, the choice of match grade bullets, of extreme accuracy, in 6mm covers every choice you could want. In our local competition BR match's I see very few 22 calibers being used: the vast majority are 6mm's. So: varmint hunting, go with the time proven 22-250. If leaning toward more accuracy, go with the 6BR. And yes, I also have a 22BR, but seldom use it & it too is a prime candidate for another re-barrel to ?, probably another 6mm.
 
have two 22-250's or should i say a had 2 one is gone.. if i was off to the range just to get out.. i'd grab the 6Br. 5 out of 5 times

the 1st 22-250 turned itself into a 30Br. :)

i wanna build a .22 br now or 6 dasher ? i may soon... ;)
 
I had a remington 700 in 22-250 and it was a fine cartridge and I played with it and tinkered with loads for 2 yrs when I first started reloading. I don't know exactly how many rounds went down the tube but I was shooting a lot. The gun would regularly shoot 5 shot groups in the .3s when I first got it but by the end of those years it had grown to .7s to .8s for a 5 shot group. Now its a 14 twist 6br and on a good day I get .1s and if its really crappy outside the worst I've gotten was .4. I love it and I've been shooting it for a year with no loss of accuracy. Mine is a spencer barreled rifle. I highly reccomend his work
 
The 22BR can and will do anything the 22/250 will do with less noise, less powder, less recoil, and better accuracy to boot.. I have them in 16-12, and 9 twists... my old 22-250's and Ackleys rarely see the light of day...
 
My 22 BR will get 3,100 fts with a 75 VLD and 28 1/2 grains for Varget. Same out of a 22-250 would use a lot more powder. Shot a 3 1/2 inch group (5 shots) at 540 yards yesterday in windy conditions.
 
I had a Remington 700 in 22-250 that I couldn't get to shoot to save my keister. Hundreds of rounds, every .22 bullet known to mankind, pounds of powder, waay too much time spent fiddling and then I bought my first 6BR. The 22-250's now at Hart being re-barreled to a 6BR. If it turns out anything like the one I have now, the 22-250s will be on the scrapheap of history. For me anyway, way easier to get an accurate load and a versatile gun with the 1-8 twist.
 
Well dave the 22-250 is a tough cartridge to beat in the field, good enough accuracry and flat tajectory is a great combination.
But the 6BR is far more accurate and i left a very good shooting cooper 22 varmit behind for my 6BR.
I would never even think of going back to the 250 . I think a 65Gr Vmax or a 70GR sbk out of my 6BR is very flat shooting,not quite as flat as a 55Gr out of a 22-250 but very close. close enough to never look back and the accuracry is just far better.cases last forever. easy to load, you could pick just about any bullet and or powder with in reason and shoot them all into the same hole. You really can make the 6BR shoot just about anything you want to feed it. the big factor in picking a 6BR is what twist barrel do you want?
 
The .22-250 is my all time favorite cartridge. The 6mmbr is great as well and they sure are easy to make shoot well but the ones I have had were tough to keep shooting well unless you enjoyed cleaning them after 40 or 50 rounds. My .22-250 will keep the same group size and POI even after 200 rounds fired at the range with out a single cleaning. I am sure the 6mmbr will out shoot my .22-250's but wile there busy cleaning there rifle, I'll be busy shooting mine. I am building another 6mmbr as we speak (just received a nice package from Pacnor) but I expect to have to clean it more than I shoot it. The best group to date with my little .22-250 is a .158" 3 shot, C2C, at 100 yds.
 
If you reload, go with 6mm BR, if you buy factory ammo you will be better off with 22-250. 6 BR is easier on the barrel and uses less powder, and it is so easy to work up accurate loads for.
 
My pick would be the 6mm BR. There is a much wider selection of bullets, the round is inherently accurate and barrel life will be better. Let me qualify that by saying I have several switch barrel rigs and 15 custom match grade barrels. One of them is a regular .22-250 1 in 14" twist, one is a .22-250 A.I. 1 in 14" twist and the other two are 1 in 8" .22-250 A.I.s. I also have two 1 in 14" twist 6mm BR barrels and two 1 in 8" twist 6mm BR barrels. If you want to remain in the .224 realm, then consider a .22 BR. It will do everything the standard .22-250 will do but much more accurately. If I only had to decide between the three, my choice would be the 6mm BR; hands down. Aside from the 6 PPC, it's probably the second most accurate cartridge. It's easy to load for and there are dozens of proven recipes from varmint hunting to groundhog match shooting.
 
Accuracy, Efficiency, Barrel Life.

I own all three. 22BR would be my first choice for varmints, 6BR for Benchrest.

Terry
 
I sure like my 22 BR. Bat action, Kreiger barrel, McMillan stock, Nightforce NXS 12 x 42 2DD. 1 in 7.7 barrel. Shoot 75 Berger VLD over 28 1/2 grains of Varget in Lapua cases. Just got back from the range ......shot a 1 inch group at 300 yards without wind flags (5 shots).
 
My choice would be a 6BR. If you want a repeater you'll have to get the 22-250. But you already have 22-250's. Thing is, the BR case is just really efficient. The 22BR shoots the same weight bullet as fast or faster than a 22-250, using a bunch less powder. And the 6BR shoots 55/58's as fast as a 22-250 shoots 50gr bullets. It's just stupid easy finding an accurate BR load and they're capable of extreme accuracy. I'm real happy with a couple 22BR's, but prefer the 6BR.
 
Steveb said:
Chino: With your experience, would you consider the 6mmBr to be more accurate than a 22Br? Thanks Steve

Steve,
I don't have a 22 BR and cannot comment from experience. I can, however, vouch for the accuracy of the 6mm BR. At some point I think I'd like a 22 BR but have way too many current projects.
 
Hi
i have a 22-250 and when the barrels done it will be getting a 22br put on but i shoot a 6mm br so it would mean same primers and powder. The 22br is a more accurate and cheaper to run and will out last the 22-250 for barrel life.
 

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