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WHO_TEE_WHO Rimfire Explosion

And why is it so inconceivable that CCI, with the millions and millions of rounds that they produce, have one come off the line with a defect?

Are you a flat earther as well?
I’m not saying they never have a defective round, I meant that I don’t believe the defect could have been an overcharge as I don’t believe they could get enough powder into the case to cause that kind of reaction.

Flat earther? Why are you making this personnel? Is this guy related to you? I have an opinion that obviously doesn’t match yours, get over it.
 
First off, he is an idiot for not wearing eye protection! I have had two case head separations with rimfire ammo, one .22LR and one .22WMR. In both cases it was Winchester ammo. In a Remington 597 about 10 yrs ago a .22LR round blew the extractor out of the bolt and spit a lot of gas my way. In the other case of the .22 WMR there was no damage to the rifle but the cartridge bottom completely separated from the case and nicked my forearm pretty good. Here is a pic of the .22LR:

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I have doubts about his theory that single round loading is the cause. In his edit, we can’t clearly see what he did before taking aim if I recall, but I would imagine that he is far from the first guy to load a round in this model, that he didn’t insert into the magazine.

If he knows something we don’t know, such as egregious misalignment or manhandling the bolt closed, well, maybe the brass did get damaged, still, that too I imagine has occurred before without incident. I have one of these in 17 HMR, I’ll look at the clearances.
David, take a Look at, the Bolt Face "Venting" of, your .17 cal. Ruger to,.. see,.. what Gives !
Thanks,. I'm Curious !
IS it, "Vented" ,.. Up-wards ???
 
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Did I see the video correctly? The shot prior to the kaboom was a miss? Was it a squib?
Possibly, a Stuck Bullet, in Bore, "Might" have been, the REAL,.. "issue" !
IF that happened, it would NOT Be, the Rifles Fault, then.
But it did NOT sound like, a "Squibb Load" to, Me.
I'm a Lefty, so an Explosion like THAT, would Not be, any "Good" for, a L-H shooter !
SCARY, chit !
 
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Never Had any "issues' with, "Gasses", from my Anschutz Bolt actions, in .22 LR or, my model 64M, in .22 Mag !
THAT was, quite a Bit of Damage to that, Ruger Rifle,.. IMO
I've worked on Ruger 77/22 recievers as well as Anschutz recievers. There are no design differences with respect to handling case failure that jumped out at me.
Maybe I missed something, but they both use a counterbored bolt face with the bottom lip cut away to allow feeding, butted against a flat breechface.....
Venting gases/shrapnel go down. How is that bad?

If I'm missing something, please enlighten me! There are plenty of reciever designs that I haven't had the chance to play with.
 
I’m not saying they never have a defective round, I meant that I don’t believe the defect could have been an overcharge as I don’t believe they could get enough powder into the case to cause that kind of reaction.

Flat earther? Why are you making this personnel? Is this guy related to you? I have an opinion that obviously doesn’t match yours, get over it.
Take it easy, Frances. You need to grow some thicker skin if you think that was personal.
 
The Breech Face, on my Ruger 10-22, .22 LR, Rimfire, IS Open, on the Bottom and SLOTTED from, the Firing Pin,.. Upwards, on Top ! ( So, Open at,.. BOTH Ends ! )
I Feel much Better with, the DUAL, "Venting" and Tight Headspace on, the Green Mtn Barrel !
@ JohnnyofallTrades,.. I've Given All, my other Rimfires Away, to grandkids, so I can't Compare, other, Bolt Faces
 
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Over the years I have had several - over loaded? 22lr from various mfg. One notable event involved Eley Black box circa late seventies and the Win. 52c. no squib load prior. blew mag ,plus extractor, out the bottom. no injuries . personally i have not that kind of carnage but then 22lr is a different animal than the 17 super wiz bang he was shooting.
 
I take issue with this.
Please tell me which bolt action rimfire reciever would have contained or redirected it better?
@ johnnyofalltrades,.. Sorry !
I Deleted, THIS post, as I really Don't know that much about, the 77-22 Rifle, it's probably,.. Fine.
Ruger Engineers, may have to LOOK Hard at, whether, there's Enough, Strength / Venting for, the Higher Pressured,.. .17 Cartridge ,.. IDK
Anyway, I should NOT have, "jumped to conclusions" about,.. the Ruger, 77-22 Rifles, Quality / design !
 
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Not wearing glasses is foolish but I see it all the time at the range, both rifle and pistol. It gives me the hives.

The only firearm I ever witness blow up was a 45 1911. It happened during a match with a guy shooting next to me. It blew the stocks off the pistol, blew the magazine out of the frame, bulged the barrel locking the slide in place. No one was injured.

The cause appeared to be a squib load that lodged a bullet in the barrel and another shot fire on top of it. Yet, I could never figure out how a squib load would cycle the action. But the bulged barrel seemed to indicate a bullet lodged in the barrel.

I just wonder if an obstruction in the bore could cause a case head failure that is shown. Maybe a plausible explanation is that it was an overcharge load or weak area in the case head. Still, quite a dramatic failure.
 
The bolt head will definitely force gas down, as the bottom 180 degrees of the face is a flat opening and the top half captures the head.
 

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My analysis of the situation after considering the possibilities.

The little piece of metal he found on the bench looks like it is part of an extractor.

Single loading can damage an extractor which could leave part of the rim, unsupported.

Result,... kaboom!
 

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