Which Mauser is the strongest / most desirable

[butchlambert]

I have a 250-3000 on a small ring 98., My 9.3x62 is built on a Banner Mauser. My 270 is built on a VZ33. My 220 Russian (Beggs) is built on a CZ mini Mauser. My 7x57 is on a Mexican Mauser. I would post more photos but they are too large for this forum and I do not know how to handle that.
The 1909 Argentine is desirable, but is susceptible to lug set back. All of my Mauser receivers have been recased.

 

[ronsatspokane]

Wow, old thread. 2016. Nice to see these pop up occasionally.

So I'm in the CZ crowd. I've got a CS 550 FS in 9.3x62. It is unique and good for the Cape Buffalo we have wandering in the streets of Spokane.

 

[butchlambert]

Wow, old thread. 2016. Nice to see these pop up occasionally.

So I'm in the CZ crowd. I've got a CS 550 FS in 9.3x62. It is unique and good for the Cape Buffalo we have wandering in the streets of Spokane.

My 375 H&H is built on a CZ550. I added a 3 pos safety and a single stage trigger from American Hunter.

 

[Liven The Dream]

Contract Large Ring 98's Like Standard Model . Banner made around 1930's before the War.
Oberndorf being top of the list !
Holland and Holland Built Many fine Rifles on them.

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[Ggmac]

The strongest would be a modern Mark X yugoslavian or any of the current names for them , Remington 798 , etc . The use modern chrome moly vanadium steel , so there adds say . Id stay away from ww1 actions and those german after 41 . The cal you chose doesn’t need the strength, all have great gas venting , go with a cz as my second choice

 

[FNSafari]

My vote is with the FN made mauser actions. Have several, both Browing Safari grade and pre-browning FN action rifles. All shoot very well for hunting arms.

 

[ISS]

IMHO, there just is not the classic style hunting/DG/Bears rifle to be made from a push feed action.

VZ-24 #1, 1909 Argy #2, the new CZs' a close second to either. Or a pre-64 model 70.

ISS

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

There is a 1909 stuffed inside this sleeve.

I think I had that same stock years ago. Is it a Fajen?

 

[Rick300]

I inherited a J.C. Higgins model 50 in 30-06. Anybody know anything about them? I don't know the first thing about Mauser's, but I'm hoping it would be worth doing something to in the future. Unfortunately my great uncle wasn't big on cleaning his guns and the bore looks pretty nasty. It shoots like crap anyway.

 

[swd]

I inherited a J.C. Higgins model 50 in 30-06. Anybody know anything about them? I don't know the first thing about Mauser's, but I'm hoping it would be worth doing something to in the future. Unfortunately my great uncle wasn't big on cleaning his guns and the bore looks pretty nasty. It shoots like crap anyway.

All the ones I’ve seen were FN Commercial Mauser’s. Good actions.

 

[SBS]

I inherited a J.C. Higgins model 50 in 30-06. Anybody know anything about them? I don't know the first thing about Mauser's, but I'm hoping it would be worth doing something to in the future. Unfortunately my great uncle wasn't big on cleaning his guns and the bore looks pretty nasty. It shoots like crap anyway.

FN commercial actions, barreled by High Standard for Sears. Bishop stocks, as I recall. A number of companies utilized FN actions for several years after WWII -- H&R, Marlin, Sako, Husqvarna & others, plus small scale custom makers like Flaigs of Millvale, PA. Also FN actions were sold here in the U.S. up until about the mid-70's. At one time they were available with '03 Springfield threads due to the plentiful & cheap supply of new surplus barrels.

 

[Rick300]

Thanks guys

 

[joshb]

The strongest would be a modern Mark X yugoslavian or any of the current names for them , Remington 798 , etc . The use modern chrome moly vanadium steel , so there adds say . Id stay away from ww1 actions and those german after 41 . The cal you chose doesn’t need the strength, all have great gas venting , go with a cz as my second choice

I thought the Siamese were the strongest? Teach me something……

 

[spitfire_er]

I've built a bunch from Commercial FN to 1909's, Mexican, and German 98's. The only two I have left are the FN and a 36 Mexican. I would vote the commercial FN, unless you want to do some work on the action, go with a 1909 or similar.

 

[Ggmac]

I thought the Siamese were the strongest? Teach me something……

The modern RedFlag company aka yugo mausers use tool quality steel in the manufacturing of the receivers. Chrome moly vanadium, a much stronger steel than just case hardened steel . The siamese has been said to be the strongest, but they don’t usually say compared to what , a rimmed action ( smle , mosins )
? Any rifle action design gets it strength from the alloy , its hardening and its design . Often with adequate gas venting being a critical factor . Most japanese actions were made on a low grade of carbon steel , heat treated correctly and had great design and gas venting. I’ll have to dig up my old books to get actual alloys used
Gary

 

[TrapperBR549]

IMHO, there just is not the classic style hunting/DG/Bears rifle to be made from a push feed action.

VZ-24 #1, 1909 Argy #2, the new CZs' a close second to either. Or a pre-64 model 70.

ISS

Or a new model 70. I have some that were made in South Carolina and they were probably superior to my pre-64's, although not near as cool.

 

[joshb]

The modern RedFlag company aka yugo mausers use tool quality steel in the manufacturing of the receivers. Chrome moly vanadium, a much stronger steel than just case hardened steel . The siamese has been said to be the strongest, but they don’t usually say compared to what , a rimmed action ( smle , mosins )
? Any rifle action design gets it strength from the alloy , its hardening and its design . Often with adequate gas venting being a critical factor . Most japanese actions were made on a low grade of carbon steel , heat treated correctly and had great design and gas venting. I’ll have to dig up my old books to get actual alloys used
Gary

I have a few Swedish Husquevarna Mausers. In my research, I read that the Swedes either provided their own steel or required them to be built with a stronger “special” alloy.
I only have the small ring version so I hold pressures down but I like the thought that they’re better made.

 

[drover]

I have a few Swedish Husquevarna Mausers. In my research, I read that the Swedes either provided their own steel or required them to be built with a stronger “special” alloy.
I only have the small ring version so I hold pressures down but I like the thought that they’re better made.

From the information I have read it was because the Swedish iron ore has a high concentration of molybdenum in it which lends itself to producing a better steel. Molybdenum at that time was a rare ore not commonly found in iron ores. One of the reasons that Swedish iron ore was so desirable.

drover

 

[DumpHollow]

I would look for a beat-up 30-06 Belgium Browning Safari and cannibalize the action out of it.

 

[shootrj2003]

If you want to do a Mauser read the old tech stuff 1950 - the 60’sand 70’s,get also
Kuhnhausens book, it will have everything you need tech wise, about early every action find a earlier rather than later ww2 98 ,even Ww1 in good shape ar good candidates or the later post war FN actions read the books they’ll give you ID hints what weaknesses to ID factory codes etcetera, after 1970’s Winchester and Remington actions started getting reccomended because those younger guys didn’t know the Mauser secrets,Mausers ,good 98 large rings and the lighter Swedish small rings were the best , the rest are just copies and you can make a good ,safe trigger out of military Mausers or get a timney or other commercial trigger,there is a reason the 98 is still made, because it’s good