Which Harrells for 6ppc clickers?

[DngBat7]

Which Harrells for 6ppc clickers?


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[rjtfroggy]

Dan, you need to send 2 unsized fired cases down to them and they will send back the right one.
Call them first and tell them what is happening.

 

[BJ44BJ]

#4 is the smallest they make and the one I use. Mine does right at .4395 at the .200 mark and .429 at the shoulder/body junction.

 

[Kyle Schultz]

The correct answer is that it depends upon your specific chamber. If your chamber is similar to the bellwether JGS 1045, I think you'll find that in order to size the web sufficiently (if possible) to avoid clickers, especially with stout loads, you're really squeezing the shoulder more than is ideal. That was my experience with everything from a 1.5 to a 4. The rule of thumb is that if you lock the jaws of your calipers on the shoulder of a fired case, the calipers should not slide down any further than 1/8" on a sized case. Mine were sliding down 1/2" or more.

I suggest you take a look at the JLC Precision sizer die sold by Steve Theye at Benchrite.com . Solved all my brass sizing problems.

JLC Precision Full Length 6 PPC Sizing Die

These full length sizing dies take standard 1/2 diameter Wilson type bushings, have hardened die bodies, come with a die lock ring and extra decap pin and O-ring for the decap assembly.

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Good luck!

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Id send some well fired cases to whidden or see if your gunsmith has a resize reamer and will make you a die. Those are the only 2 that wont end up oversizing somewhere

 

[jackieschmidt]

Just an opinion, (based on an idea I got from Charles Huckabe), there is only one sure fire way to size the entire area of the case web.

you take a standard Redding body die, chuck it up true in a lathe, and using a carbide drill or boring bar, you remove the entire shoulder inside the die, leaving just the tapered body portion of the die. Then face the die untill the bevel on the big end is just about gone.

Using a arbor press, you push the case in so the head is flush with the bottom of the die. You then take a punch that will slip into the cases neck and push the case out.

Then you use your standard sizing die to bump the shoulder

Dies that incorporate a shell holder will always have the problem of not getting the entire web sized down.

As I said, I did not come up with this idea. I started doing this a while back and it does a great job. I have taken 6PPC cases that had developed a severe click and got more life from them using this.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Just an opinion, (based on an idea I got from Charles Huckabe), there is only one sure fire way to size the entire area of the case web.

you take a standard Redding body die, chuck it up true in a lathe, and using a carbide drill or boring bar, you remove the entire shoulder inside the die, leaving just the tapered body portion of the die. Then face the die untill the bevel on the big end is just about gone.

Using a arbor press, you push the case in so the head is flush with the bottom of the die. You then take a punch that will slip into the cases neck and push the case out.

Then you use your standard sizing die to bump the shoulder

Dies that incorporate a shell holder will always have the problem of not getting the entire web sized down.

As I said, I did not come up with this idea. I started doing this a while back and it does a great job. I have taken 6PPC cases that had developed a severe click and got more life from them using this.View attachment 1349350View attachment 1349351

Francis’ ring die and shellholder will push brass into the extractor groove

 

[Dolomite]

 

[Tim Singleton]

it would be great to have a#4 Harrel that didn’t push the shoulder back to far
a bigger butt reamer is the real fix

 

[rayporter]

best is to have your smith make it when he makes your die- which will match your chamber.
life is good!!!

 

[Ccrider]

Like Dusty said. Get a ring die from Francis. Two sizes available. Problem solved.

 

[jimmymac]

Who is Francis?

 

[Ccrider]

Pbike257@Gmail.com

Or I think his son is on here: @Uthink Uknow

 

[Uthink Uknow]

‘Tis I. Our die won’t bump your shoulder because it is a straight walled die.
PM. Me.

 

[Tim Singleton]

JLC precision

JLC Precision Full Length 6 PPC Sizing Die

These full length sizing dies take standard 1/2 diameter Wilson type bushings, have hardened die bodies, come with a die lock ring and extra decap pin and O-ring for the decap assembly.

benchrite.com