which custom action?
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Raythemanroe
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muddy72 said:
How would you compare the BRM to other actions?
Ray
All of the well-established custom action makers are good. Those who aren't, disappear fast (you should see some of the strange stuff my gunsmith has lying around) from the market place.
Select a design basis (what do you want out of an action), look for something that best matches your criteria, and then make a decision without agonizing over-much.
Select a design basis (what do you want out of an action), look for something that best matches your criteria, and then make a decision without agonizing over-much.
The equipment list for the recent Super Shoot are posted as a PDF on BR.com. in the LV top 20 there is 1 Rimrock action in the HV there is 1 Rimrock action. Same shooter. Mostly BAT with a CST and several Stolles. The first time I went to the SS I made it a point to walk around in the reloading barn and make a mental list of actions being used. In those days the Stolle was the favorite with some Halls, Witchitas and Harts sprinkled in. This was well before BAT was around.
I just noticed that Tin Singleton has posted this list in the Competition forum.
I just noticed that Tin Singleton has posted this list in the Competition forum.
Joe R
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It seems several of my friends here have had good results with Pierce actions and I'm glad, unfortunately I didn't.
In May 2014 I received two rifles assembled by Pierce using their tube gun actions and Eliseo chassis. These rifles were the first time I had a custom rifles built for me so I really didn't know what to expect. As soon as I opened the box I noticed that the bolt was a sticky in when extracting even before the first firing. I have never owned a Remington type rifle so I could only compare it to my Savage. The Savage was much smoother.
I started using the .308 right away, I thought it was because it was a tight fit and after a break-in period it would work itself out. I was wrong. I put 3,300 rounds through that rifle and it was still sticky. I have called Pierce back and explained my problem to Jim Ayers (at Pierce) and he offered no solution other than having a gunsmith look at it.
In all fairness I did not demand that they do something, simply because I don't want to ship my rifles from Texas back to Michigan. Additionally, the rifles shoots much better than I do.
My other rifle, a 6mm Comp Match has only had 10 rounds through it an is just as sticky as the 308. On Tuesday (2/3/15) I took my 308 to the gunsmith to have a new barrel installed. I explained my problem to him and he said that he's had another client with the same problem with a Pierce action. He fixed it and it is now smooth as it should have been from the beginning.
Instead of having my gunsmith fix my 6mm I decided to work on it myself. With the aid of marking ink I was able to find exactly where the bolt rubbed against the action causing it to stick. With a little file I was able to file it down in several places so that the bolt slides smooth as silk. It took me about an hour to fix it.
My point is this, the bolts were never properly fitted to the action and those rifles should never have left Pierce's shop in that condition, and IMO it reflects very badly on Pierce.
I have since bought and received a Kelbly F-class action, it is as smooth as silk. My gunsmith is now assembling that rifle for me. I was so impressed that I ordered another action from Kelbly just yesterday.
Regards,
Joe
In May 2014 I received two rifles assembled by Pierce using their tube gun actions and Eliseo chassis. These rifles were the first time I had a custom rifles built for me so I really didn't know what to expect. As soon as I opened the box I noticed that the bolt was a sticky in when extracting even before the first firing. I have never owned a Remington type rifle so I could only compare it to my Savage. The Savage was much smoother.
I started using the .308 right away, I thought it was because it was a tight fit and after a break-in period it would work itself out. I was wrong. I put 3,300 rounds through that rifle and it was still sticky. I have called Pierce back and explained my problem to Jim Ayers (at Pierce) and he offered no solution other than having a gunsmith look at it.
In all fairness I did not demand that they do something, simply because I don't want to ship my rifles from Texas back to Michigan. Additionally, the rifles shoots much better than I do.
My other rifle, a 6mm Comp Match has only had 10 rounds through it an is just as sticky as the 308. On Tuesday (2/3/15) I took my 308 to the gunsmith to have a new barrel installed. I explained my problem to him and he said that he's had another client with the same problem with a Pierce action. He fixed it and it is now smooth as it should have been from the beginning.
Instead of having my gunsmith fix my 6mm I decided to work on it myself. With the aid of marking ink I was able to find exactly where the bolt rubbed against the action causing it to stick. With a little file I was able to file it down in several places so that the bolt slides smooth as silk. It took me about an hour to fix it.
My point is this, the bolts were never properly fitted to the action and those rifles should never have left Pierce's shop in that condition, and IMO it reflects very badly on Pierce.
I have since bought and received a Kelbly F-class action, it is as smooth as silk. My gunsmith is now assembling that rifle for me. I was so impressed that I ordered another action from Kelbly just yesterday.
Regards,
Joe
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I would look at the Barnard P actions as, Rusty mentioned. Bolt lift is easy for a three lug. Machining is outstanding and they come with a small pin that is close fit so there are no issues with piercing/blanking primers or flow back from the cup.
On top of that, the lock time is super fast and they come WITH an excellent two stage trigger. For the money, they are hard to beat. Certainly not the prettiest action out there, but they work flawlessly.
On top of that, the lock time is super fast and they come WITH an excellent two stage trigger. For the money, they are hard to beat. Certainly not the prettiest action out there, but they work flawlessly.
Stiller predator V rblp. My first was a stiller rbrp then I tried the lprb coned bolt and I found a perfect set up for varmint hunting. Throw a round in and shoot, open bolt pull out fired case and drop another in and second shot, if needed, in one sec or so...pretty quick. The others are excellent. Stiller might be less $ and if you buy enough you get a discount.
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