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Which 30cal for long range precision rifle?

Have someone run the 300 RCM through Quick-load in a 30-32" bbl. Brass may be an issue (I haven't used Horn. brass in some years )But worth looking into....
 
emn83 said:
RMulhern said:
Simple! For the majority of the 'younger set'....it's not ROMANTIC enough!! Too be 'cool'....ya gotta have the latest whizzbanger....with magic bullets!!

jeez, that makes this "young" guy's .308 really unsexy. Will admit though, looking at a .300 for the next gun to add to the collection...but nothing replaces my .308 out to 600, I love that gun

emn83

600 yards doesn't even scratch the surface with the .308 Winchester cartridge! I've shot several 'cleans' in my day from 1000 yards using it in my Palma rifle shooting the 155 gr. Sierra bullet with 47.0 grs. Varget through a 30" Obermeyer barrel! Damn great 'paper puncher' from that distance!!
 
RMulhern said:
emn83

600 yards doesn't even scratch the surface with the .308 Winchester cartridge! I've shot several 'cleans' in my day from 1000 yards using it in my Palma rifle shooting the 155 gr. Sierra bullet with 47.0 grs. Varget through a 30" Obermeyer barrel! Damn great 'paper puncher' from that distance!!


I know that my .308 will go a lot farther than 600. That's just as far as I have shot. I just am getting into mid range and long range shooting. Still load testing too, need to get a chronograph so I can check the loads I found that seemed good.
 
I would go with the 300WSM they are great shooters and VERY easy to get them to shoot. 7's seem to be a little harder to find that sweet spot but if you have a good shooting 7 you will never want to leave it.
 
emn83 said:
RMulhern said:
emn83

600 yards doesn't even scratch the surface with the .308 Winchester cartridge! I've shot several 'cleans' in my day from 1000 yards using it in my Palma rifle shooting the 155 gr. Sierra bullet with 47.0 grs. Varget through a 30" Obermeyer barrel! Damn great 'paper puncher' from that distance!!


I know that my .308 will go a lot farther than 600. That's just as far as I have shot. I just am getting into mid range and long range shooting. Still load testing too, need to get a chronograph so I can check the loads I found that seemed good.

emn83

" need to get a chronograph so I can check the loads I found that seemed good."

Why?? What the frick good is it going to do anyone to know that a bullet is doing 2775 fps or 2825 fps....as long as the damn thing goes where you want it under X number of conditions! The main thing to KNOW is what it will do under varying conditions BY TRIGGER TIME aka SHOOTING TIME and your zeros! The best way to learn LR shooting is to DO IT and by keeping a data book for the conditions at hand while shooting!! I've been doing this a VERY LONG TIME and maybe I'm set in my ways but a chronograph IMO is about as useless as tits on a boar hog!! My madness must not be too far from wrong because over the years I won lots of stuff and that was shooting aperture sights....no scope!! I'm either damn good or damn lucky!!
 
RMulhern said:
emn83 said:
RMulhern said:
emn83

600 yards doesn't even scratch the surface with the .308 Winchester cartridge! I've shot several 'cleans' in my day from 1000 yards using it in my Palma rifle shooting the 155 gr. Sierra bullet with 47.0 grs. Varget through a 30" Obermeyer barrel! Damn great 'paper puncher' from that distance!!


I know that my .308 will go a lot farther than 600. That's just as far as I have shot. I just am getting into mid range and long range shooting. Still load testing too, need to get a chronograph so I can check the loads I found that seemed good.

emn83

" need to get a chronograph so I can check the loads I found that seemed good."

Why?? What the frick good is it going to do anyone to know that a bullet is doing 2775 fps or 2825 fps....as long as the damn thing goes where you want it under X number of conditions! The main thing to KNOW is what it will do under varying conditions BY TRIGGER TIME aka SHOOTING TIME and your zeros! The best way to learn LR shooting is to DO IT and by keeping a data book for the conditions at hand while shooting!! I've been doing this a VERY LONG TIME and maybe I'm set in my ways but a chronograph IMO is about as useless as tits on a boar hog!! My madness must not be too far from wrong because over the years I won lots of stuff and that was shooting aperture sights....no scope!! I'm either damn good or damn lucky!!


I do all that, but I'm something of a data freak, so for me it's all about seeing how much data I can get
 
emn83 said:
RMulhern said:
emn83 said:
RMulhern said:
emn83

600 yards doesn't even scratch the surface with the .308 Winchester cartridge! I've shot several 'cleans' in my day from 1000 yards using it in my Palma rifle shooting the 155 gr. Sierra bullet with 47.0 grs. Varget through a 30" Obermeyer barrel! Damn great 'paper puncher' from that distance!!


I know that my .308 will go a lot farther than 600. That's just as far as I have shot. I just am getting into mid range and long range shooting. Still load testing too, need to get a chronograph so I can check the loads I found that seemed good.

emn83

" need to get a chronograph so I can check the loads I found that seemed good."

Why?? What the frick good is it going to do anyone to know that a bullet is doing 2775 fps or 2825 fps....as long as the damn thing goes where you want it under X number of conditions! The main thing to KNOW is what it will do under varying conditions BY TRIGGER TIME aka SHOOTING TIME and your zeros! The best way to learn LR shooting is to DO IT and by keeping a data book for the conditions at hand while shooting!! I've been doing this a VERY LONG TIME and maybe I'm set in my ways but a chronograph IMO is about as useless as tits on a boar hog!! My madness must not be too far from wrong because over the years I won lots of stuff and that was shooting aperture sights....no scope!! I'm either damn good or damn lucky!!


I do all that, but I'm something of a data freak, so for me it's all about seeing how much data I can get

You must have gone to Harvard! ;D

My degree came from a DD Form 214! ;D
 
RMulhern said:
You must have gone to Harvard! ;D

My degree came from a DD Form 214! ;D

More like an anal-retentive who's also trying to so long range hunting and wants to have a drop card with 25 yard increments 8)
 
For barrel life, going to be hard to beat the .30-06. The AI'd case will extend your case life as well.

A .30/284 would be most versatile for bullet seating. Could also do an AI'd shoulder on the .30/338 and have the longer neck you don't get on the .300 win mag and a bit more powder capacity.

There's always the .30 Gibbs

As far as barrel life goes, the FN-H Police rifle was made in .300 wsm and was furnished with a match grade, chrome-lined barrel. The Chrome-lined match barrel could really be your solution.


Really think barrel life ought be your biggest concern. Second concern, brass availability. .308 will have longest usable barrel life in this spectrum of rifles with .30-06 close to it. Doubt you will see 1500 from any of the magnums; maybe if barrel is chrome-lined like the FN-H....


The .280rem AI or .284win offer you more than any .30; especially lighter recoil. Compare the BC data for 7mm heavies with the .30 heavies, then look at the powder burned. Less powder, more barrel life, lower recoil, same or better BC better trajectory and wind-bucking.

Would be really hard to find a better production rifle than a FN-H Police w/McMillan stock and match c-l bore in .308 for a lifetime of service...
 
- 1500 round + barrel life

and

- 208gr Amax / 210 Berger from 2,850 from 30" barrel with single base powder

May Not exist.
 
RMulhern said:
emn83 said:
RMulhern said:
emn83 said:
RMulhern said:
emn83

600 yards doesn't even scratch the surface with the .308 Winchester cartridge! I've shot several 'cleans' in my day from 1000 yards using it in my Palma rifle shooting the 155 gr. Sierra bullet with 47.0 grs. Varget through a 30" Obermeyer barrel! Damn great 'paper puncher' from that distance!!


I know that my .308 will go a lot farther than 600. That's just as far as I have shot. I just am getting into mid range and long range shooting. Still load testing too, need to get a chronograph so I can check the loads I found that seemed good.

emn83

" need to get a chronograph so I can check the loads I found that seemed good."

Why?? What the frick good is it going to do anyone to know that a bullet is doing 2775 fps or 2825 fps....as long as the damn thing goes where you want it under X number of conditions! The main thing to KNOW is what it will do under varying conditions BY TRIGGER TIME aka SHOOTING TIME and your zeros! The best way to learn LR shooting is to DO IT and by keeping a data book for the conditions at hand while shooting!! I've been doing this a VERY LONG TIME and maybe I'm set in my ways but a chronograph IMO is about as useless as tits on a boar hog!! My madness must not be too far from wrong because over the years I won lots of stuff and that was shooting aperture sights....no scope!! I'm either damn good or damn lucky!!


I do all that, but I'm something of a data freak, so for me it's all about seeing how much data I can get

You must have gone to Harvard! ;D

My degree came from a DD Form 214! ;D

A little off subject but just reading this and when I came up on your comment on the DD 214 it made me smile! One of my buddies had that as his liscense plate back in 29 Palms.
3/7 India 0311 2003-2007
 

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