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When to anneal?

Do you guys anneal before or after sizing?
When you anneal properly, it makes the brass softer and reduces the amount of springback. Therefore, for consistent shoulder bumps, annealing should be done before sizing. Keep in mind an abrasive oxidation layer is left on the surfaces (inside and out), which should be cleaned off before sizing to also help with getting good consistency.
 
The 3 B's in reloading...

- Anneal BEFORE resizing.
- Double check which powder your using BEFORE you throw.
- Check your finances BEFORE you load up on components.

The last two will definitely get you in trouble, one way or another.
 
For those who anneal after some number of firings; do you notice that after annealing, the load you have worked up acts differently on target?
 
For those who anneal after some number of firings; do you notice that after annealing, the load you have worked up acts differently on target?
I tried to get away from annealing, but found that heavy bolt lift started and fired case would not chamber. So went back to annealing. I've faithfully annealed for years, but decided one day that I will try and get away from it. I will anneal all the time.
 
Annealing after each firing and before sizing is considered good practice by most. Thinking may have been altered by time in washing machine on left in photo during the 1950s. My younger brother got the dryer on the right. Whatta Hobby!

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DDRanch,
Anneal before sizing and do it each cycle for the life of the brass. After I started annealing my sd/es went down and my 1000 yard groups got smaller. But remember not any one thing makes a winner it’s a combination to many things we do, trial and error and use what works and discard the ones that don’t
Wayne
 
So if you only anneal after, say, 3 - 5 firings, would it make a difference?
It depends on what "difference" one is talking about. A lot will depend on just how much the cycle of firing and sizing is moving the brass. Take a factory barrel and a standard sizing die and you'll have a lot of movement with each cycle where just a couple of cycles without annealing will result in quite a bit of spring back due to the work hardening. Bases on my limited testing, where I've measured the hardness at different stages with annealing temperatures, going 5 firings is too much and 3 would be my limit. But that all still depends on what "differences" are important to you and the relationship of your sizing die with your chamber's configuration.
 
In regards to frequency… I’ve tried it every firing and found it unnecessary. It certainly won’t hurt though.

I will pick 3 random cases and size them. If the shoulder bump and neck measure what they do on annealed brass, I don’t anneal that cycle. If they don’t, I anneal. Generally every 3rd firing is enough.
 

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