Wheeler method

[Dave M.]

You mis understood. The numbers we would be sharing are in relation to the lands. If I said to load .006 in we would both be .006 in from the same touch point. You can never share comparator numbers even if the same brand.

Agree 100% Alex. Thanks for clarifying

 

[JFrank]

I ordered this one.

Starrett 1/16" Pin Punch

Excellent quality 1/16" pin punch that we have found to be very durable in the shop. This can be used for installing and removing the pins in kit assembly/disassembly.

kiblerslongrifles.com

 

[Evan]

I ordered this one.

Starrett 1/16" Pin Punch

Excellent quality 1/16" pin punch that we have found to be very durable in the shop. This can be used for installing and removing the pins in kit assembly/disassembly.

kiblerslongrifles.com

I have that one. It’s perfect. I apologize if I'm just saying things you already know, but even if I am, maybe someone else will find it helpful. Here's the best picture I could get of the two types I have:

The ball tip is inset so it has a shoulder for the roll pin to bear on.

 

[DaveTooley]

Hey Dave, how do you like that gauge? I have a whidden bullet comparator and shoulder bump gauge. The shoulder bump is a great little gauge but the bullet comparator seems to stick to the bullet really easy. Even with minimal effort I get it to the point where I can't even spin a loaded round when it's in the gauge with very minimal pressure.

The way I did it the internal edge of the bushing is very sharp. That doesn't lend itself to a frictionless contact patch. Even with a slight radius you would have the same setup. It never seemed to bother me.

 

[D Coots]

If I feel the need to check it as the barrel wears that is simple enough using the Wheeler method.

I've found the best way to check barrel wear is on the sighter if the powder charge doesn't change things where they need to be. I trust the target more than a measurement. Short range.

 

[jimmymac]

I've found the best way to check barrel wear is on the sighter if the powder charge doesn't change things where they need to be. I trust the target more than a measurement. Short range.

Agreed. If the gun stops shooting, a small seating adjustment usually does the trick. Ive had some barrels where I never adjusted seating depth once I had it where I wanted it.

 

[BoydAllen]

I have seen a slight degradation of accuracy that was restored with a vary small adjustment to seating depth. This was at a short range group match. I saw the problem on targets and used the sighter to test the remedy. Looking back, I should have gone to the line with a full set of both loads, and done my testing before going to record.

 

[powderbrake]

Here is a tool to hold the ejector and spring in place when removing the cross pin.
Ejector spring tool

 

[Kevin1990]

Here is a tool to hold the ejector and spring in place when removing the cross pin.
Ejector spring tool

Thats what I have. nifty little tool!

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I have one I dont use. If somone wants it send me an address

 

[JFrank]

I have one I dont use. If somone wants it send me an address

I’ll take it.

 

[Dave M.]

You don't have to. Why would you bother even asking such a question? I know but prefer you say it out loud.

Please explain this back and forth for those that are not in the know.
Dave

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Please explain this back and forth for those that are not in the know.
Dave

No thanks Dave, other than he appears to have an agenda. He called me out without me ever posting at all. Go figure. Not sure why but it's been too common. Just unmoderated bs as far as i know. Don't even think I know him at all. I don't blame Paul or the mods as they have their hands full with this many members but he needs to be called out by them, IMHO...or just stop the bs.

 

[michaeljp65]

Here is a tool to hold the ejector and spring in place when removing the cross pin.
Ejector spring tool

I have one of those i use on my tikka and panda but its to small for a BAT 3L

 

[jimmymac]

Please explain this back and forth for those that are not in the know.
Dave RT

This is nothing new Dave. He’s been trolling Mike for a long time. Pretty weird behavior.

 

[AlNyhus]

When removing a 700 style ejector and spring, I just put the front of the bolt in a sandwich baggie and stick the punch through the baggie....everything stays in the baggie. Except the ham and Swiss on pumpernickle which was previously in there.

 

[Tim Singleton]

I have one of those i use on my tikka and panda but its to small for a BAT 3L

Bore it out then works good for Bat

 

[jxb]

Bat I just push the plunger in a little with thumb to release pressure on pin then other hand I can push the pin out just past the plunger then let up on my thumb. Quick and easy and no worries of flying parts. Doing the opposite and I can easily push the pin back into place.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I've found the best way to check barrel wear is on the sighter if the powder charge doesn't change things where they need to be. I trust the target more than a measurement. Short range.

I agree that the target is all that matters. But when the sighter target tells you something is wrong and you dont have any rounds loaded longer because you didnt check your throat what can you do then? Point I try to make is that more information is good. Knowing the throat moved allows you to know that you need to test or may want to bring some longer rounds to the bench. I just like being a step in head of the barrel if possible. PPCs are a lot easier on throats than some of the stuff we shoot in long range. So I do understand why many sr guys dont worry about it as much.