Whats yalls 22 Nosler wildcat ideas?!

[rockrat]

Reconsidering going the 35 cal route instead of a 375 wildcat on the 22 Nosler case. If you look at the dimensions of the 357 Herrett, it looks like it could be a perfect match. For anyone that hunts in the states that call for a case 1.8" or less length, this would be a good fit for an AR setup.

 

[Nvreloader]

Guys

If anyone has this hot little brass in their hands,
can you provide the measured diameter just ahead of the extraction groove.

I already have the case spec'd as posted,
I need REAL life case OEM measurements, not swag's.

I am thinking on building another wildcat.

Tia,
Don

 

[GAnderson]

Is anyone running the 22 Nosler in a bolt rifle? If so, is it cycling as a repeater? Just curious as to whether or not this cartridge will be only good in an AR or as a single shot bolt gun. Thanks

Gene

 

[5spd]

I just saw on PTG site a reamer for the 6mm-22 nosler, that's what Id be looking at for a bolt build myself.

 

[IdahoSharpshooter]

I think I am going to try and muddle my way thru with my old 223Valkyrie*.

Rich
* aka 22-284

 

[Brians356]

Update to my post of 30 January on the Nosler capacity figures:

I just talked to "Mike" in Nosler Customer Service, and he agreed (with chagrin) that the case capacity numbers I discussed on 30 January are nonsensical and contradictory. He said he was going to call the webmaster and try to get the "empty" and "bullet seated" capacity figures verified and corrected on the web pages ASAP.
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[rockrat]

nvreloader-----0.4165 by my micrometer

 

[Nvreloader]

RR
Thank you for that info.

Tia,
Don

nvreloader-----0.4165 by my micrometer

 

[TheOtherZilla]

17 or 20 cal..

 

[Bully]

Is anyone running the 22 Nosler in a bolt rifle? If so, is it cycling as a repeater? Just curious as to whether or not this cartridge will be only good in an AR or as a single shot bolt gun. Thanks

Gene

With my not so good "google-fu" I am reading that the AI mags in 223 work with some minor modification.

 

[Brians356]

Is anyone running the 22 Nosler in a bolt rifle? If so, is it cycling as a repeater? Just curious as to whether or not this cartridge will be only good in an AR or as a single shot bolt gun. Thanks

Gene

If it'll run in an AR it'll run in a bolt action. And it's only got a 30-deg shoulder. Not sure why someone would even be concerned. Besides, Nosler sells bolt rifles, and (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt) they wouldn't market a cartridge that is not universally usable.

My 250 AI w/ 40-deg shoulder feeds just fine out my R-700 magazine. Are you concerned about the rebated rim or something?
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[ASbobcat]

Is anyone looking at this in a bolt gun? It looks like case capacity is 34.7gr of H2O. It appears, besides rebating the rim, Nosler has lengthened the case by 0.074", as well as pushed the shoulder forward and gave it a 30 degree lift. I don't know anything about the Wasp but I was thinking they had rebated the Hagar case...

I measured my BR case and it holds a little more than the Nosler. The whole idea of the Nosler rebated rim is to fit it in an AR platform without weakening the bolt head (Grendel). This suggestion reminds me of the counter-productivity of the Grendel in a bolt gun, when proven Lapua BR brass is readily available and has more case capacity.

 

[ASbobcat]

Wonder how more over the .223 case this one would push a 90 VLD

Holds about 25% more powder. Real question is, how tough is the brass? I'm anxiously awaiting reports from the field.

I remember all the excitement about the Shiraz Dasher, until the reports started coming in about the softness of the brass. I've already had a disappointing experience with Nosler brass, so I'm waiting for others to try it first.

 

[Brians356]

I measured my BR case and it holds a little more than the Nosler.

How much does your Nosler case hold (in grains H2O)?

(Note: As I reported here and elsewhere, Nosler Tech Support admitted to me the capacity figures on their web site are contradictory, and therefore unreliable. So let's not assume anything in print is correct. "Trust ... but verify.")
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[GAnderson]

If it'll run in an AR it'll run in a bolt action. And it's only got a 30-deg shoulder. Not sure why someone would even be concerned. Besides, Nosler sells bolt rifles, and (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt) they wouldn't market a cartridge that is not universally usable.

My 250 AI w/ 40-deg shoulder feeds just fine out my R-700 magazine. Are you concerned about the rebated rim or something?
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Yes Brian, I was wondering if the bolt nose would pick up the cartridge with the rebated rim...they say you have to use the 6.8 mags in an AR15 platform and I assumed that was because of the rebated rim...figured that might pose a problem as a repeater in a remington 700.

 

[Brians356]

Yes Brian, I was wondering if the bolt nose would pick up the cartridge with the rebated rim...they say you have to use the 6.8 mags in an AR15 platform and I assumed that was because of the rebated rim...figured that might pose a problem as a repeater in a remington 700.

My hunch is the SPC mag recommdation stems from the wider case body. And this is the rationale cited by Joseph Von Benedikt in his Shooting Times article (April 2017).
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[ASbobcat]

How much does your Nosler case hold (in grains H2O)?

(Note: As I reported here and elsewhere, Nosler Tech Support admitted to me the capacity figures on their web site are contradictory, and therefore unreliable. So let's not assume anything in print is correct. "Trust ... but verify.")
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I used Nosler's own data from their reloading page.

 

[ASbobcat]

My hunch is the SPC mag recommdation stems from the wider case body. And this is the rationale cited by Joseph Von Benedikt in his Shooting Times article (April 2017).
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The ASC/SPC mag recommendation is based on the potential to fit highest BC bullets in the AR platform. In general this means longest ogive. If Nosler had left the case length unchanged from the SPC this wouldn't be a problem, but by trying to squeeze in a couple of more grains of powder, they have restricted the room for bullet ogive.
If the brass proves to be worthy, one potential solution is to F/L resize the brass in 22DTI die and trim to that length. 22DTI is available now. Just keep your .223 bolt head with the DTI chamber. This leaves room for Sierra 90gr (.638 ogive) seated to ASC/SPCmag length.
Best of all worlds. Strong bolt and high BC bullets.

 

[Brians356]

I used Nosler's own data from their reloading page.

You shouldn't trust that. To repeat:

Nosler Tech Support admitted to me the capacity figures on their web site are contradictory, and therefore unreliable. So let's not assume anything in print is correct.

Let me pose it another way: Nosler report case capacity as both 34.7 and 34.2 on two different pages. How did you determine which is correct, when Nosler themselves couldn't tell me when I called them last week?
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[Sniper338]

You shouldn't trust that. To repeat:

Nosler Tech Support admitted to me the capacity figures on their web site are contradictory, and therefore unreliable. So let's not assume anything in print is correct.
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Ive heard that before too. Back when i started reloading. I cross references nosler once with something i was playing with at the time and noslers data was way different that other sources, so i steered away from noslers data skeptical...