What’s the Difference Between a Shouldered Pre-Fit and a Barrel Nut Pre-Fit for a Savage?

[Clancy]

Sure. That too. Have you removed one red loctited on?

Ain’t but 2 colors of loctite Bradley. Blue and JB WELD hahaha

 

[J.d. Popkes]

I don’t know where you’re at in this process, if you’re too far down the savage road to turn back, or maybe you’re content with them?

If you’re not committed to savages, now’s a great time to pivot to something else, and keep the prefits. Several better receivers take prefits. Just a thought.

 

[hoz53]

Ain’t but 2 colors of loctite Bradley. Blue and JB WELD hahaha

hate to stick up for UR but there are other colors. lol

 

[Mike in Oregon]

I don’t know where you’re at in this process, if you’re too far down the savage road to turn back, or maybe you’re content with them?

If you’re not committed to savages, now’s a great time to pivot to something else, and keep the prefits. Several better receivers take prefits. Just a thought.

IMHO, quit the opposite sir. I have 100% peace of mind with the Savage PTA and what all can be done with it. It keeps me from spending more than I need to on custom actions and achieving the same accuracy. It fits my budget a lot better too. Just my .02 cents.

 

[DShortt]

hate to stick up for UR but there are other colors. lol

If we're going to start down THAT road, colors are NOT the way to distinguish Loc-Tite products. But that's a topic for a new thread if someone wants to start it.
Better check the product code numbers.

 

[Clancy]

If we're going to start down THAT road, colors are NOT the way to distinguish Loc-Tite products. But that's a topic for a new thread if someone wants to start it.
Better check the product code numbers.

Which color turns blue if you put copper solvent on it?

 

[spaniel]

I'm leaning towards using a nut. Sounds more straight forward to me using a Go/No Go gauge.

I have used gauges, but also build a lot of weird stuff where gauges are hard to come by. I've learned to use a case in place of a gauge. YMMV.

 

[J.d. Popkes]

IMHO, quit the opposite sir. I have 100% peace of mind with the Savage PTA and what all can be done with it. It keeps me from spending more than I need to on custom actions and achieving the same accuracy. It fits my budget a lot better too. Just my .02 cents.

If you’re happy with them, go for it, I was just offering an alternative. If you’re happy with a single shot and that trigger. I’ve done my savage thing for quite a while. They shoot. Certainly not trying to offend.

 

[Link]

Sure. That too. Have you removed one red loctited on?

''Loctitted'' ah I think my smith uses a special grease. I am usually wrong. ;]

 

[memilanuk]

Sure. That too. Have you removed one red loctited on?

With enough heat, yes.

 

[Dgd6mm]

I don’t know where you’re at in this process, if you’re too far down the savage road to turn back, or maybe you’re content with them?

If you’re not committed to savages, now’s a great time to pivot to something else, and keep the prefits. Several better receivers take prefits. Just a thought.

I agree I have 2 Nucleus and a Origin, love them. Not sure how many Savage's and I'm fond of them also.1 more day of traveling before I'm home from a pdog trip. Urbanrifleman's barrels slayed those critters using a barrel nut. Nothing but .223 in heavy wind, 53vmax.

 

[Fuj]

Sure. That too. Have you removed one red loctited on?

I just did one of mine for a swap out . Mapp gas pencil flame on the
nut. When the temp gun reads 500 degrees your good to go. Brake-
Clean to clean up after.

 

[Rat Rifle]

I just did one of mine for a swap out . Mapp gas pencil flame on the
nut. When the temp gun reads 500 degrees your good to go. Brake-
Clean to clean up after.

Nice going Fuj. Keep it up and You could become a good Millwright! Oh,Wait

 

[Fuj]

Nice going Fuj. Keep it up and You could become a good Millwright! Oh,Wait

Tool makers always had to wear many hat's. It's been a good life. and
always paid the bills......

 

[jackieschmidt]

Here is the thread. All 25 pages.

Thread 'Barrel Nut Disadvantages?'

Jan 18, 2021

I think for most applications a good quality barrel nut on a well machined barrel ought to be okay. However, as I think through this, I see some potential disadvantages.

With a well machined shouldered barrel, when you tighten it up it firmly and evenly engages the action. At most, you might get .001" more from just snug to heavy torque. More often I think it's less than .0005". This means the barrel is true to the action with no stress. This allows very heavy barrels to free float.

With a barrel nut, there is no barrel shoulder so thread tension must be what holds everything in...

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I would make further comment, but I'll just leave the thread to the reader.

Wow, it’s been 2 years since I did that “test”. The OP should go back and read it.
While it might have been a case of of “I I did it because I can”, the info garnered did answer some important questions, not only for others but for myself.

In today’s world of “speculation”, sometimes you just have to break down and do it, so to speak.

 

[SKWERLZ]

I agree I have 2 Nucleus and a Origin, love them. Not sure how many Savage's and I'm fond of them also.1 more day of traveling before I'm home from a pdog trip. Urbanrifleman's barrels slayed those critters using a barrel nut. Nothing but .223 in heavy wind, 53vmax.

One of the reasons I bought an arc action was because I could use my existing savage barrels
Now I only have one barrel nut barrel left, use a Barloc setup on it so only a spanner wrench, Allen wrench and go gauge needed to swap it on.

 

[urbanrifleman]

Wow, it’s been 2 years since I did that “test”. The OP should go back and read it.
While it might have been a case of of “I I did it because I can”, the info garnered did answer some important questions, not only for others but for myself.

In today’s world of “speculation”, sometimes you just have to break down and do it, so to speak.

You sir, did a wonderful thing. I think. You are some kind of machinist.

 

[urbanrifleman]

I agree I have 2 Nucleus and a Origin, love them. Not sure how many Savage's and I'm fond of them also.1 more day of traveling before I'm home from a pdog trip. Urbanrifleman's barrels slayed those critters using a barrel nut. Nothing but .223 in heavy wind, 53vmax.

Wooo hooo!!

 

[J.d. Popkes]

I agree I have 2 Nucleus and an Origin, love them. Not sure how many Savage's and I'm fond of them also.1 more day of traveling before I'm home from a pdog trip. Urbanrifleman's barrels slayed those critters using a barrel nut. Nothing but .223 in heavy wind, 53vmax.

Same applies for working over a Remington these days. Silly. Too many good customs starting at $750 to mess with factory receivers. Mack Bros

 

[urbanrifleman]

Same applies for working over a Remington these days. Silly. Too many good customs starting at $750 to mess with factory receivers. Mack Bros

And Mack bros hold headspace. So, you can order a shouldered prefit.