I'm aware. My own range is 300m. I'm just saying that 28 yards really makes a difference. WH
What’s a good BR group at 300m/300y
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Bart. I think was right .7oo is a good place to be for 5 shots in good conditions. the guys that say they 1/2inch at 500yds is unseasonable in most conditions . when speedy shoots a .646 at 300 meters he's
a world class shooter with world class gun. anything close to that is great . I shoot 300 in practice and
sometimes i shoot small . I thought I was better than that . but I was wrong. because I ain't no
speedy Gonzales . OLD Rick
a world class shooter with world class gun. anything close to that is great . I shoot 300 in practice and
sometimes i shoot small . I thought I was better than that . but I was wrong. because I ain't no
speedy Gonzales . OLD Rick
Not directed at anyone here but I just wanna be clear that my previous reply is based on IDEAL conditions. I tried to be very clear about that in my post and point out that doing it in perfect conditions at my home range is not the same as match conditions. Testing in great conditions has value, as does testing in real world match conditions. I've shot a big handful of world records here that don't show up in any record books or match reports. Being able to walk out to my reloading room, attached to my shop at dusk or dawn in perfect conditions, setting up on a very good concrete bench and even turn the heat or ac on is a big advantage(sort of), I'll be the first to admit. As is just turning around and tweaking the load at my loading bench. It doesn't mean others can't have better or do better with less but it does afford things to me that I sometimes take for granted when it comes to testing. And yes, we're talking world class rifles too, that have won national championship aggs.
I don't say any of this to brag, but to say that what I said before is MY rule of thumb and what I look for in great conditions from me and my equipment.. that I'm fortunate to be able to take advantage of, when I'm not working in the shop....which has a tendency of late, to really get in front of my shooting. Lol!
Shooting in great conditions is the easy part. Doing it in match conditions is a different ballgame and I commend anyone that wins big matches and sets world records in an actual match!
In match conditions, I 100% agree. Even at 200, keeping them all under an inch can be tough. That's simply not the question the op asked, nor my standard for ideal conditions.
3 shot groups off my bench at home shot at 300 meters don’t translate well to 5 shot groups shot off the benches at 300 meters at Drybranch
Yeah, that place is brutal most days.
That load/barrel would shoot 5 shot groups in the zeros at 100 yards.i was checking my come ups to 300 meters more than anyghing
Ccrider
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Zeros and ones at 100 does not always translate to ones at 300.
If I'm being honest (and when have I been anything but?), if I can reliably get five shots into a round group between 5/8 and 3/4 inch, at 300 meters, I'm pretty satisfied. I think the important thing is to not read too much into one good group. I should add, the only time I shoot three shot groups is when the first three are scattered enough that I see no point in shooting more. More shots won't make the group any smaller! Putting faith in the occasional good group is a bit like counting on divine intervention; nice to imagine but probably not going to happen. Certainly not in my life!
I demonstrated this at TD6 when I shot a hell of a group (well under 1/2 inch) in practice, then waited in vain for that group to appear on a record target. Turned out I would have had to hire someone else to shoot my target if I wanted to see a good group. Now that I think about it, that might be a good strategy for TD7! WH
I demonstrated this at TD6 when I shot a hell of a group (well under 1/2 inch) in practice, then waited in vain for that group to appear on a record target. Turned out I would have had to hire someone else to shoot my target if I wanted to see a good group. Now that I think about it, that might be a good strategy for TD7! WH
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