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What to do with your AR10 (308)

^^ That one’s a beauty. Mine weren’t equipped like that. Mine gave the sterile impression of a gun that would indeed shoot on every trigger pull, but would solely be set on a bag at a gun range’s concrete bench, during dry, broad daylight, to hit shoot-n-see disks, and for which manufacturing simplicity was important. I’m not sure mine even had forward assist.
 
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Picture of mine, sporting an LRHS. The LRHS has been moved to my current bean field rifle. A 6 pound AR10 would be sweet. I like the AR platform and have used 5.56 and 6.5 Grendel to good effect in the woods.

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Im with 99% of you fellas on here..built a few 308 AR's and converted one to 6.5 Creedmoor and it finally
shot well enough for me after many..many Benjamins..and then promply sold them both..good riddens I say.
Heavy hard to shoot well and excessivly abusive. No more.
 
You may have already done so but have you scoped the barrel and see if it needs to get cleaned properly?
I don’t have a scope. May need to try a copper solvent. Typically just use clp and a brass brush and swabs. Lather, rinse repeat until clean swab.
 
I don’t have a scope. May need to try a copper solvent. Typically just use clp and a brass brush and swabs. Lather, rinse repeat until clean swab.
Lather, rinse until I see a clean swab was my mentality as well. Until I soaked my Ruger barrel for about total of 25 hours with SharpShooter foam. Between the foam applications I brushed many strokes (If I remember correctly probably 150 strokes between the applications). The barrel was spotless and my grouping went down to less than half with factory ammo.

You can use many good cleaning products sharpshooter, bore tech, carbon and copper and others.

Just my experience and my cent and a half of contribution.
 
Good suggestions on what to do. I want it to shoot, and if it does, I’ll clearly have more to like. I’ll try the in house, low cost stuff first. Copper solvent for the barrel. I’ve seen posts about the Teslong, but was thinking that would be more of a tool for checking out used gun purchases. Next step, will be talking to the manufacturer. It doesn’t hurt to ask. Then, maybe, consider buying a barrel. I will probably stop there.
 
. I’ve seen posts about the Teslong, but was thinking that would be more of a tool for checking out used gun purchases.

It's that too, but think of it more as an inspection aide for your cleaning regimen. You can't see what you can't look at, the bore scope will tell you if it's clean or not.
 
Off topic, sorry. But, I just received a POF Rogue in for a customer in 308. Weighs 6 pounds 1 ounce on my scale( no mag or optic). Uses a 5.56 carrier. Couldn't tell you how it shoots yet, though.
I had a DPMS SASS long time ago. Was a consistent MOA shooter. Very heavy, though.


I can't imagine what shooting a 6#1oz rifle in 308 would be like, but I don't think "fun" would be the first thing to come to mind.
 
I could not bond with the .308 DPMS years ago. The heavy profile stainless barrel was actually accurate for that rifle type and cost, but I couldn’t justify keeping an expensive scope on it. The chamber was very sensitive to long round length. AR’s don’t favor stout target loads even with their fast enough twists, seemingly apt to slowly destroy themselves if you try, and the circular forend wasn’t conducive to mounting a good bipod. I believed then that a big, semi auto cycling would tear up a NF, and anyway, it wasn’t so accurate that I’d want to use it in a match.

I actually had two of these because the perceived value was so good, but within a few years both were traded off. I could not think of a roll being filled, besides plinking. I didn’t want that riffle for a defensive emergency. It was far from the top choice when the first shot is the one that counts. As to plinking, a .308 is expensive and audibly taxing, and to my thinking little is or looks worse than chintzy scope on a rifle with an originally important purpose, but that left me no scope option. AR .223’s already covered close range, better. If I was a hog blaster on YouTube, that gun could have been ideal, but I’m not one to wound a bunch of hogs on the run. I’ve held on to odd rifles like a 17 fireball and the 30-378, with more .308’s than anything else, I just couldn’t appreciate those two, which really were good rifles.
Funny I've owned 3-308 auto loaders, all M1A1 and only fired 1 of them, got rid of all of them. I've never been inclined toward the 308 for field work as I had plenty of 30-06's and the auto loaders all had auto loader limitations.

Today I've migrated to a 6MM ARC but the rifle was purchased with the cartridge and action limitations in mind so it fits its purpose. I will say this, the modern metal working has improved the rifles. There are 3 rifles in the family manufacturing spanning over 30 years, all still accurate to this day but you can see the progression in the technology. So maybe I need to look at a 308 auto loader?
 
Most chambers on factory barrels in AR platforms have an excessive throat. Not many bullets like jumping that far for best accuracy. I had to set back 3 barrels for that reason.Problem is when you seat out to 20 off or so ,the oal is longer than the mag length. But I would try working off the lands just to see if the barrel will shoot or not. If you haven't already done so .
 
No takers., keepen it.
Those pictures of powder and primers at your shop are a wet dream. :p
The chamber was very sensitive to long round length. AR’s don’t favor stout target loads even with their fast enough twists, seemingly apt to slowly destroy themselves if you try, and the circular forend wasn’t conducive to mounting a good bipod.
Same. The fore end was more like a piece of conduit with some grip surface milled into it. It was not a spectacularly accurate gun. I tried normally loaded SMKs in it, but the gun is more suited as a cover fire tool, and the SMKs wasted through it. After giving to my kid, I missed the "fun" and built a 7-08 on a M5E platform. It's a keeper.
I’m in the same place. Have assembled a few in 6.5 and 308 over the years and have taken some game with them. Maybe I’m getting more boring now, but I just seem to focus on handgun and bolt rifle. For all of my applications, that’s what my preference would be. View attachment 1276937
That is one sexy gun, but with the PRS and Mk 5, you have ~4lbs alone on that. What's it weigh as shown?
 
I bought my AR10 for a hunting rifle that gave me the ability for a quick follow up shot that my Tikka 7mm Rem Mag didn't afford me when I screwed up the first shot. 4 hours of tracking a wounded deer convinced me I "needed" it, "just in case." Anyway, I'm getting older, and the AR10 is getting HEAVIER (not sure about the physics of increased density over time or the force of gravity increasing). Not exactly a rifle for still hunting in the woods. Unfortunately, my AR10 doesn't group well, so long range stuff isn't really an option with this gun unless I do something (new barrel) to improve it's accuracy.

So now I have an AR10 that is too heavy (for me) to carry in the woods and not accurate enough to use in the bean fields. Sure, it's fun to shoot, but other guns are just as fun to poke paper or ring steel and ammo for them doesn't cost as much.

What do you do with your heavy AR10's that don't group?
That's too bad. My AR 10 in .260 and .308 are as accurate as my bolt guns, Literally. Heavy yes, Awkward yes. Accurate YES. I use mine for the LR prairie dog shoots. Good quick follow ups and less reloading. Not the most ideal deer gun due to design for carry and function but work ok if shooting from a permanent blind. I'd recommend shooting it more with different loads. Not sure of you reload but that can make a difference. Little different than loading for a bolt gun. Neck tension is greater and length is a bit different also. Bullet weight range is narrower.
 
That is one sexy gun, but with the PRS and Mk 5, you have ~4lbs alone on that. What's it weigh as shown?

Yeah, the heavy Bartlein barrel chambered by Craddock added a good bit to the weight too. The Seekins receiver set was on the hefty side as well. She was definitely a hefty heifer. I believe it came out to about 13 pounds all loaded up ready to go as pictured but I sold that rifle because I stopped using it. Was very accurate and reliable though. Just didn't enjoy it as much as other things I've got.
 
Funny I've owned 3-308 auto loaders, all M1A1 and only fired 1 of them, got rid of all of them. I've never been inclined toward the 308 for field work as I had plenty of 30-06's and the auto loaders all had auto loader limitations.

Today I've migrated to a 6MM ARC but the rifle was purchased with the cartridge and action limitations in mind so it fits its purpose. I will say this, the modern metal working has improved the rifles. There are 3 rifles in the family manufacturing spanning over 30 years, all still accurate to this day but you can see the progression in the technology. So maybe I need to look at a 308 auto loader?

There’s some kind of halo over those, though, especially when no polymer can be found on one, sorry archangel, no takers older than 1980. I don’t know if it’s their Garand origins or steam locomotive-like charm, but a gun I admire almost too much to shoot, is my M1A Supermatch. I have one with the rear lug bedded in a camo McMillan stock. It’s so accurate I’d like it no matter what it was, but it has no business being that good, with a barrel affixed by the thinnest receiver ring, that steps down to resemble a small water fountain’s hose, which everything imaginable is affixed to, even a bayonet that seems stiffer than would be. It’s just the crazy but successful contradiction of lavish accuracy attention poured into the framework of a basic military tool, I suppose.
 
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Having had 5 different AR10s. My favorite is currently the DPMS LR. Fluted stainless Bull barrel 24" long. Carries a Springfield Armory 6-20x56 Scope. Mil reticle and is so accurate it's hard to believe it's a gas gun. Not a real comfortable gun for carry but a great bench/ bipod gun. I'll be holding on to it for a while. Once you get them to shoot, you'll hang on to it. It's tough for me to part with rifles. I've done it but many times regretted it.
 
My 18" love 125 ballistic tips at around 3000 fps, a deer will not walk on it. Shoots 3/4 all day. I do have a break on it so you would need muffs. It is not a light rifle for the woods, but I can handle it.
 

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