What to do with your AR10 (308)

[d31tc]

I bought my AR10 for a hunting rifle that gave me the ability for a quick follow up shot that my Tikka 7mm Rem Mag didn't afford me when I screwed up the first shot. 4 hours of tracking a wounded deer convinced me I "needed" it, "just in case." Anyway, I'm getting older, and the AR10 is getting HEAVIER (not sure about the physics of increased density over time or the force of gravity increasing). Not exactly a rifle for still hunting in the woods. Unfortunately, my AR10 doesn't group well, so long range stuff isn't really an option with this gun unless I do something (new barrel) to improve it's accuracy.

So now I have an AR10 that is too heavy (for me) to carry in the woods and not accurate enough to use in the bean fields. Sure, it's fun to shoot, but other guns are just as fun to poke paper or ring steel and ammo for them doesn't cost as much.

What do you do with your heavy AR10's that don't group?

 

[DiffEQ]

If you dont need the funds, give to your children/grand kids.
My oldest received my DPMS as a H.S. "gad-u-ay-shun" present. Edit to add, I still provide the "spray and pray" ammo.

 

[B23]

If it's of any interest to you I have a brand new unfired 18in Rock Creek 308 barrel, gas tube, and gas block that I pulled off my Seekins SP10 when I converted it to a 6.5CM.

 

[dthomas]

If you don't use it you probably could sell it for not much less than you paid for it.

 

[simo hayha]

Change the barrel to lite profile.

Ar make excellent hunting guns

 

[PigButtons]

If you still like it, invest in a new barrel. You may just find out you have a new favorite paper puncher

 

[joshb]

If you dont need the funds, give to your children/grand kids.
My oldest received my DPMS as a H.S. "gad-u-ay-shun" present. Edit to add, I still provide the "spray and pray" ammo.

I gave my DPMS SASS to my son. A year later, he gave it back!

 

[pirate ammo]

Give it to me.

 

[pirate ammo]

Try carrying a FnFal around that's what I do, but it will shoot minute of pig at 200 yards.

 

[joshb]

Give it to me.

You were selling your FAL and your 308 stuff!

 

[pirate ammo]

No takers., keepen it.

 

[pirate ammo]

You were selling your FAL and your 308 stuff!

 

[davidjoe]

I could not bond with the .308 DPMS years ago. The heavy profile stainless barrel was actually accurate for that rifle type and cost, but I couldn’t justify keeping an expensive scope on it. The chamber was very sensitive to long round length. AR’s don’t favor stout target loads even with their fast enough twists, seemingly apt to slowly destroy themselves if you try, and the circular forend wasn’t conducive to mounting a good bipod. I believed then that a big, semi auto cycling would tear up a NF, and anyway, it wasn’t so accurate that I’d want to use it in a match.

I actually had two of these because the perceived value was so good, but within a few years both were traded off. I could not think of a role being filled, besides plinking. I didn’t want that riffle for a defensive emergency. It was far from the top choice when the first shot is the one that counts. As to plinking, a .308 is expensive and audibly taxing, and to my thinking little is or looks worse than chintzy scope on a rifle with an originally important purpose, but that left me no scope option. AR .223’s already covered close range, better. If I was a hog blaster on YouTube, that gun could have been ideal, but I’m not one to wound a bunch of hogs on the run. I’ve held on to odd rifles like a 17 fireball and the 30-378, with more .308’s than anything else, I just couldn’t appreciate those two, which really were good rifles.

 

[d31tc]

If it's of any interest to you I have a brand new unfired 18in Rock Creek 308 barrel, gas tube, and gas block that I pulled off my Seekins SP10 when I converted it to a 6.5CM.

I intend to talk to the manufacturer and see if they will try a new barrel. They are a smaller company and the lower and upper are really good fit and finish. I don't have any complaints about the trigger. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think 1 MOA is a realistic expectation for a $1,200 to $1,300 rifle. If I was seeing 5" to 6" groups at 500, I'd be OK with my rifle and I could see a purpose for it. As it is, it is 10" to 12" at 500. I've tried multiple brands of manufactured ammo, Winchester, Nosler, Hornady, Remington and various hand loads. If the manufacturer angle doesn't work, I'll keep this in mind.

 

[MikeMcCasland]

I dropped a gob of money into building an LR260 a few years back, had a Lilja and a Proof barrel for it too.

Like you, I couldn't get it to come close to the performance of a custom bolt gun. It shot well for an AR, but generally speaking the large frame ARs are difficult to shoot accurately (relatively speaking). That BCG is a lot of reciprocating mass; I remember laughing when I first saw it. You could beat someone to death with one, hah!

Secondly, the port pressures on the .260 barrels when suppressed couldn't ever be tamed. It would trash brass with a can; didn't matter if you had an AGB and the heaviest of springs/buffers.

Combine all that with a trigger that doesn't get below 3lbs, and it takes someone with perfect fundamentals to shoot well, and they're a pig to carry anywhere.

I dumped mine on these forums at a $2000 loss. Hopefully the dude can shoot it better than I could; if so, he got a hell of a deal.

 

[d31tc]

Try carrying a FnFal around that's what I do, but it will shoot minute of pig at 200 yards.

I put a Bushnell ERS on mine. I think I threw my back out trying to shoulder it. Definitely the increase in the force of gravity in this case. If I could throw it 200 yards, I'm sure it would kill a pig, and the scope and rifle would survive. It's a beast.

 

[d31tc]

If you dont need the funds, give to your children/grand kids.
My oldest received my DPMS as a H.S. "gad-u-ay-shun" present. Edit to add, I still provide the "spray and pray" ammo.

I actually have it on my list to build an AR10 to compliment the one I have. This is because I have 2 daughters. My current AR10 weighs more than them (I kid). Maybe I'm a slow learner. A lightweight barrel and handguard are my thoughts. And a lighter scope. And a lighter stock. And a weight lifting regimen.

 

[Dave in WI]

Off topic, sorry. But, I just received a POF Rogue in for a customer in 308. Weighs 6 pounds 1 ounce on my scale( no mag or optic). Uses a 5.56 carrier. Couldn't tell you how it shoots yet, though.
I had a DPMS SASS long time ago. Was a consistent MOA shooter. Very heavy, though.

 

[thestoicmarcusaurelius]

I could not bond with the .308 DPMS years ago. The heavy profile stainless barrel was actually accurate for that rifle type and cost, but I couldn’t justify keeping an expensive scope on it. The chamber was very sensitive to long round length. AR’s don’t favor stout target loads even with their fast enough twists, seemingly apt to slowly destroy themselves if you try, and the circular forend wasn’t conducive to mounting a good bipod. I believed then that a big, semi auto cycling would tear up a NF, and anyway, it wasn’t so accurate that I’d want to use it in a match.

I actually had two of these because the perceived value was so good, but within a few years both were traded off. I could not think of a roll being filled, besides plinking. I didn’t want that riffle for a defensive emergency. It was far from the top choice when the first shot is the one that counts. As to plinking, a .308 is expensive and audibly taxing, and to my thinking little is or looks worse than chintzy scope on a rifle with an originally important purpose, but that left me no scope option. AR .223’s already covered close range, better. If I was a hog blaster on YouTube, that gun could have been ideal, but I’m not one to wound a bunch of hogs on the run. I’ve held on to odd rifles like a 17 fireball and the 30-378, with more .308’s than anything else, I just couldn’t appreciate those two, which really were good rifles.

I’m in the same place. Have assembled a few in 6.5 and 308 over the years and have taken some game with them. Maybe I’m getting more boring now, but I just seem to focus on handgun and bolt rifle. For all of my applications, that’s what my preference would be.

 

[NZ_Fclass]

Sell all them new fangled springy bits on top and put a Unitah bolt top in Magic Creedmoor or Dasher