What should be the rules for "Factory" class ?

[Dusty Stevens]

Dusty, you one of the few on here I follow. With that being said your ideas on what should be in factory class outside of promoting unsafe triggers leads me to LMAO. You must have some stock car genes in you.

Anytime i see a factory class i always have to laugh. Most do everything they can to toe the line instead of embracing the challenge. Everything in shooting ends up an equipment race. Ive seen some factory classes that the only thing factory was the action said remington. Didnt even try to disguise the aftermarket barrel.

 

[Loggins J]

Hawks Ridige gun club has a factory class alot come and shoot just in factory

 

[savagedasher]

Hawks Ridige gun club has a factory class alot come and shoot just in factory

Numbers is what it’s all about

 

[Chuckhunter]

Have a Factory and a Factory/modified class. Factory is pretty easy, as it comes from manufacture. If you want to blueprint the action, install a Krieger barrel and put in a new or modified trigger plus bed the action, fine. You can adjust these rules to suit your memberships desires within reason. For example before Hunter class got ruined by to many rule changes you were required to have a working safety and an operable magazine that would hold and feed two rounds. Once you decide on the allowances in the modified/factory class shoot them for a year and if they are working well, make them permanent.

 

[JFrank]

Anytime i see a factory class i always have to laugh. Most do everything they can to toe the line instead of embracing the challenge. Everything in shooting ends up an equipment race. Ive seen some factory classes that the only thing factory was the action said remington. Didnt even try to disguise the aftermarket barrel.

As I mentioned earlier hunter/sporter can be limited to barrel diameter and scope power
Factory chamber Etc.
People that cheat never really win"
They'll always be losers ...

 

[savagedasher]

Have a Factory and a Factory/modified class. Factory is pretty easy, as it comes from manufacture. If you want to blueprint the action, install a Krieger barrel and put in a new or modified trigger plus bed the action, fine. You can adjust these rules to suit your memberships desires within reason. For example before Hunter class got ruined by to many rule changes you were required to have a working safety and an operable magazine that would hold and feed two rounds. Once you decide on the allowances in the modified/factory class shoot them for a year and if they are working well, make them permanent.

That’s the best advice I have seen
Happy new year

 

[JEFFPPC]

Anytime i see a factory class i always have to laugh. Most do everything they can to toe the line instead of embracing the challenge. Everything in shooting ends up an equipment race. Ive seen some factory classes that the only thing factory was the action said remington. Didnt even try to disguise the aftermarket barrel.

Yes most toe the line . Those who cross the line are called cheaters and liars. Also defined as lacking in character. Unfortunately we have some of those in our sport.

 

[Bojo]

I read most of the posts in this thread.... only a few words need replaced in each post to make this sound exactly like a stock car racing debate. I have been running g a bone stock savage 12 LRP in 243 win for 2 years at Ridgway. Warne base and rings and a burris 6x24x52 black diamond. 2.5 wide piece of derline bolted to the front and slick tape on the rear.Best score is a 22 out of 40
I am a beginner at this game at anything past 500 and having a blast.

 

[sdean]

I would like to see a sporter/Hunter class added to the 600/1000 matches. Something similar to what Alex posted so that we can try to bring in some of the guys that have PRS or long range hunting rifles.
Something along the line of:
- folding bipod only for front rest
- limit weight 17? So that they can also shoot lg
- scope max Either 25x or 32x
- must have magazine - single loading ok
- change the rules slightly so there is no DQ for cross fires or missed shots, just penalties

Keep the rules simple and easy to enforce.

Already ready have this down South. Palo Alto, Memphis and Laurel. This class is well attended.

 

[rjtfroggy]

I'll stick to my original post, a factory gun should not be allowed to be modified in any way, once you make changes it is no longer factory, that is the reason for " custom class".
I personally have used pure factory Savages in short range BR and done very well in factory class.
Admittedly it takes WORK, finding the right bullet and load, being willing to take the time to practice then practice some more.
I will not change my personal integrity to win a piece of paper or wood plague just to be able to say I won.
With that being said I have and am changing my guns to shoot in the higher classes, a full custom for Hunter class and a totally revamped Savage for VFS.

 

[jamesdmock]

It seems to me that once modifications are allowed, there is a progression to more and more custom features added. Where does it stop? One should not have to have a lawyer in order to meet the rules for factory class. The UBR solved the problem with 4 classes unlimited, custom, modified factory, and factory. The problem with this at most club matches is NUMBERS. Who wants to shoot a category with one or two participants?

 

[rjtfroggy]

The problem is most everyone has that need to win attitude. I just want to beat my last score each and every time out, makes life much more enjoyable, no blood pressure issues, no indigestion, and I sleep at night knowing I am doing what is right.

 

[johnmyers]

Factory class can be one of (if not THE most) expensive classes to get into if you're not careful on how you set up the rules. If I was starting over or a new shooter, I'd go straight to a Modified class, or custom class, and bypass factory all together. That being said I believe that the UBR definitions of allowable equipment are the best I've seen. JME. here's a link. WD http://ultimatebenchrest.com/rule-book/equipment

I agree and almost everywhere you go factory rules are different so if you have a factory rifle to shoot in your home area matches and want to go to a different area or discipline your factory rifle probably won't be legal. Custom and modified both have uniform rules wherever you go

 

[akajiggs]

I shoot the range that James Mock referred to and shoot custom class.I do not shoot factory as all my hunting rifles have been bedded,even my 1980 model 6mm varmint special.Was going to shoot the vs in factory but it has been bedded.Rules say as it came from the factory and I am cool with that.I will not shoot it.
IMHO,factory class should mean just that"bone stock as it came from the factory".
This is supposed to be a fun sport but when we start adding things in order to have a win,it is not fun anymore.I am not the best shot in the world ,as my scores can prove that,but if I have to start fudging or bending the rules in order to get a win, I just as soon not shoot.
FACTORY= As it came from factory in the box.
This is just my opinion and we all know that everybody has one.

Jim

 

[Nature Boy]

Continuing with the racing analogy, do any of you remeber the now defunct IROC (international race of champions) series?

Racers from many disciplines competed in exactly the same make and model of car (I believe it was a Chevy Camero)

It was my thought that something similar could be done using a Savage model rifle in bone stock configuration as they are accurate enough out of the box to compete and cheap enough to make it affordable

 

[Terry]

This is why I stopped shooting matches in Indiana. You could not win the overall without shooting factory. Their Factory class outlawed Savage model 12's with flat for ends, but permitted after market triggers.

Too bad, many friends there.

 

[Chuckhunter]

Anytime i see a factory class i always have to laugh. Most do everything they can to toe the line instead of embracing the challenge. Everything in shooting ends up an equipment race. Ive seen some factory classes that the only thing factory was the action said remington. Didnt even try to disguise the aftermarket barrel.

You just summed up the death of the Hunter Class!

 

[tmwinds]

Sounds pretty simple to me. If it's not pure stock factory then it must have been modified.

 

[grovey]

The local club I shoot at has two factory classes, and two custom classes. I shoot light sporter with a bone stock Tikka superlite. Trigger adjusted only. We shoot score at 100,200 and 300 yds.

1. Light factory sporter = you can adjust the trigger, bed it, 24x scope limit, bbl no more than .680 at some point,and no one piece rests. 3 shots for score

2. Heavy sporter you can adjust the trigger, bed it, no scope limit, no one piece rests. 5 shots for score.

 

[clunker]

The local club I shoot at has two factory classes, and two custom classes. I shoot light sporter with a bone stock Tikka superlite. Trigger adjusted only. We shoot score at 100,200 and 300 yds.

1. Light factory sporter = you can adjust the trigger, bed it, 24x scope limit, bbl no more than .680 at some point,and no one piece rests. 3 shots for score

2. Heavy sporter you can adjust the trigger, bed it, no scope limit, no one piece rests. 5 shots for score.

I had no idea that factory competitions existed. I also have a Tikka superlight (adjusted trigger only) as well as a Tikka light (adjusted trigger only). The light in .223 is ridiculously accurate, and 100 to 300 yards is exactly where I'd like to start until I get better at reading wind. How do I find out where these events are being held? I'm in Eastern WA State, but I'll be moving to Portland, OR in the near future.