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What Priming Tool to Buy

Yes the pockets have to be uniform, I think the idea is to get consistent first, pockets and crush, then experiment what amount of crush works best for you. and consistent can be a plus or minus amount that your happy with, doesn't have to be dead on.
then you have the variance of the primer itself, which cant be controlled, so its never going to come out exact, but within a range you can control or live with.
I try to have everything as consistent as I can, I think that it should make the rounds shoot closer the the same spot.
I heard it said that someone did 20 things to there brass and only 10 worked. they just didn't know which 10!!
 
rlporter507 said:
Yes the pockets have to be uniform, I think the idea is to get consistent first, pockets and crush, then experiment what amount of crush works best for you. and consistent can be a plus or minus amount that your happy with, doesn't have to be dead on.
then you have the variance of the primer itself, which cant be controlled, so its never going to come out exact, but within a range you can control or live with.
I try to have everything as consistent as I can, I think that it should make the rounds shoot closer the the same spot.
I heard it said that someone did 20 things to there brass and only 10 worked. they just didn't know which 10!!
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Primers can be measured accurately with an "accuracy one" tool. Which will also accurately measure your primer pockets after they have been "uniformed".

bullettipping.com

Precision Primer Gauge

The Precision Primer Gauge takes precision measurements of primer pocket depth and the depth of seated primers in relationship to the face of the case head.
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jpjulian said:
Got my PCPS set up on my Zero press this week. This primer tool works really well and by my calibrated eye, very consistent. My only gripe is that the turret head will not rotate completely as the tool hits the body of the press the way I have the tool set up. We'll see how much of a gripe this remains.
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mine doesn't, just adjust the die up a little...
 
jghoghunter said:
Primers can be measured accurately with an "accuracy one" tool. Which will also accurately measure your primer pockets after they have been "uniformed".

bullettipping.com

Precision Primer Gauge

The Precision Primer Gauge takes precision measurements of primer pocket depth and the depth of seated primers in relationship to the face of the case head.
bullettipping.com bullettipping.com
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this is the tool I chose, there are several on the market that will do a good job. I was amazed how much variance there was in my priming depth, I have loaded on a bench priming tool for 20 years, and always felt it hit bottom, or so I thought, and after putting them into a box, I would feel that all primers were below the case head. and they were. As the measuring tool proved, my feel sucks!!!
I'm curious how many people that seat by feel, which would be pressure not depth, if they had a good tool and measured they might be amazed as I was.
Ignorance was bliss in my case.
 
rlporter507 said:
this is the tool I chose, there are several on the market that will do a good job. I was amazed how much variance there was in my priming depth, I have loaded on a bench priming tool for 20 years, and always felt it hit bottom, or so I thought, and after putting them into a box, I would feel that all primers were below the case head. and they were. As the measuring tool proved, my feel sucks!!!
I'm curious how many people that seat by feel, which would be pressure not depth, if they had a good tool and measured they might be amazed as I was.
Ignorance was bliss in my case.
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I was the same way. Thought I was doing well and a friend stop in with his accuracy one tool and I was showed that I was not as near as good as I thought I was. Lol! That's when I bought the PCPS and I've been happy since even if it's in only my mind. Before anybody says anything I use the tool to measure all my primer pocket depths after they've been uniformed made sure they were correct and the same. You can also use the tool to measure the height of your primers and sort them that way. Just doing this for accuracy won't amount to a hill of beans but it's all the little things that you do that will gain you that extra 100th or 2/100 hopefully. Just enough to beat out your buddy!
 
jghoghunter said:
I was the same way. Thought I was doing well and a friend stop in with his accuracy one tool and I was showed that I was not as near as good as I thought I was. Lol! That's when I bought the PCPS and I've been happy since even if it's in only my mind. Before anybody says anything I use the tool to measure all my primer pocket depths after they've been uniformed made sure they were correct and the same. You can also use the tool to measure the height of your primers and sort them that way. Just doing this for accuracy won't amount to a hill of beans but it's all the little things that you do that will gain you that extra 100th or 2/100 hopefully. Just enough to beat out your buddy!
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for me its peace of mind, knowing that any sort of inconsistencies isn't coming from my primer seating depth
 
Benchrest Braxton said:
even though i highly respect bryan, i feel his assessment of the cps was erroneous. some sort of user error, his consistency numbers were WAY out of line with what that unit is capable of.

Only way his numbers were that bad was if he had the worst lot of brass for rim thickness in history. did you watch my video where i achieved sub +/- 1/2 thou consistency with my cps and ugly pcps?
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I believe that he used the same lot of brass for testing all tools.
 
BoydAllen said:
I believe that he used the same lot of brass for testing all tools.
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i talked to him and he said that he used another gentlemans primal rights for testing (gentleman was present during his test), and he said knows of other people that have the same issue he did.

all i know is that across like 10 different cartridges i load for, using lapua, remington, hornady, winchester, federal brass, that i always get very consistent primer seating depths that directly contrasts his results with that tool.

i don't believe that bryan's test was a fair representation of what that tool is capable of, but hey, its just testing. bryan collects awesome data with his skils, experience, and methodology, but like any other testing, just because one person got this result doesn't mean that its some end all be all fact for every data point.
 
rlporter507 said:
this is the tool I chose, there are several on the market that will do a good job. I was amazed how much variance there was in my priming depth, I have loaded on a bench priming tool for 20 years, and always felt it hit bottom, or so I thought, and after putting them into a box, I would feel that all primers were below the case head. and they were. As the measuring tool proved, my feel sucks!!!
I'm curious how many people that seat by feel, which would be pressure not depth, if they had a good tool and measured they might be amazed as I was.
Ignorance was bliss in my case.
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i do wish the recess the brass sets into was deeper.... hours latter ... i do have a lathe ,oh the wheels are turning now
 
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I 3-d printed a holder for it, if you have access to a printer. site wont let me upload it, pm an email and I can send it.
 

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for anyone interested I will probably be parting with my pcps(s), i love them, but no different than the primal rights tool that i already have, and this point im just kinda used to using it. shoot me a pm if you are interested.
 
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