I'm a pistol shooter. I shot a little service rifle in the past and probably will again, but recently I dipped my toes in the F-class waters. I read the DREAM RIFLE thread with great interest, but I don't really know what I was reading. I own some nice pistols, but don't have a nice rifle. I have a few ARs, a few Savage 110 variants, a few rimfires and a few lever action rifles. I wouldn't know the finer points of a nice rifle. I'd like to learn. What would be the best place to start my education?
What is a nice rifle?
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ronsatspokane
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Start at the parent site: https://www.accurateshooter.com/
"A few Savage 110 variants".
Well, those will get you to 600 yards no problem.
My first F-Open was shot with my Stevens 200 with factory sporter barrel in 7mm-08AI. I reamed the chamber myself.
Sightron STAC 4-20X50 with EGW 20 MOA base & Warne rings.
Bipod is an Atlas knock off.
Stock is Stevens 200 with forestock stiffened with lite weight Bondo, and Limbsaver recoil pad.
Was shooting 140gr Berger VLD-H.
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Well, those will get you to 600 yards no problem.
My first F-Open was shot with my Stevens 200 with factory sporter barrel in 7mm-08AI. I reamed the chamber myself.
Sightron STAC 4-20X50 with EGW 20 MOA base & Warne rings.
Bipod is an Atlas knock off.
Stock is Stevens 200 with forestock stiffened with lite weight Bondo, and Limbsaver recoil pad.
Was shooting 140gr Berger VLD-H.
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Fast14riot
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I think P.O. Ackley summed it up quite nicely, "Only accurate rifles are interesting."
For me, a nice rifle will be extremely smooth to operate, fit will be like your favorite jeans, and as reliable as your grandpa's work truck and as good looking to you as your prom date. But, even if all these boxed are ticked, if it doesn't shoot worth a darn, it just ain't worth it.
For me, a nice rifle will be extremely smooth to operate, fit will be like your favorite jeans, and as reliable as your grandpa's work truck and as good looking to you as your prom date. But, even if all these boxed are ticked, if it doesn't shoot worth a darn, it just ain't worth it.
JMayo
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Bench Rest is another option. Speciality rifles made for the sport.
I don't lay down on the ground on purpose anymore !
Distance for group?
1,2 &300 yrd score?
All this kind of stuff is part of picking rifle stock, caliber, rest.
Then you get into the reloading, that's another thread !
I don't lay down on the ground on purpose anymore !
Distance for group?
1,2 &300 yrd score?
All this kind of stuff is part of picking rifle stock, caliber, rest.
Then you get into the reloading, that's another thread !
skeeljc
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How about a brief description of Bench Rest - for score vs for group.
JMayo
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600 group IBS light gun 17.5 lb and less, heavy is bigger than 17.5 lbs. Most are shooting 6mm bra or dasher improved.
1-300 IBS SCORE, 13.5 lb or less the 30br is majority.
I have bat ds actions, bartlein barrels, jewel triggers. Put together by Brian at Plainfield Precision, Shelby NC
1-300 IBS SCORE, 13.5 lb or less the 30br is majority.
I have bat ds actions, bartlein barrels, jewel triggers. Put together by Brian at Plainfield Precision, Shelby NC
group therapy
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SILLY!!!!! one that behaves and acts properly!!!!! and isn't un-nice
I need to start learning the finer points of a nice action. Here is an example that I think illustrates my train of thought. I have an AR with an adjustable gas block, a lightened BCG, competition buffer and a JP trigger that feels nice even though it is really a Frankengun. I can definitely tell the difference between it and my other two AR lowers. Now please correct me if I am wrong, but in the bolt action rifle world it seems that if you want nice then you have to start with nice. I have an XP-100 pistol that is the nicest action I have ever shot. There is no comparison in working that bolt compared to my Savages. I want a nice rifle, but I don't want to go through a half dozen rifles to get one.
I think Townsend Whelen gets credit for that line.
I think Townsend Whelen gets the credit for saying "only accurate rifles are interesting".
mensajd
Quod Erat Demonstrandum
There are a few different ways to construe the term "nice." The Oxford dictionary has this as the first entry, "pleasant; agreeable; satisfactory." I agree with Whelen and the other posters here that "only accurate guns are interesting." But I construe a nice rifle to mean one that is accurate, is built to an excellent standard of fit and finish, and is well suited for its intended task.
But for a rifle to be "NICE!" I think it also has to meet a high level of aesthetic value. To me that means all the prerequisites of a nice rifle, but also one that is built with a fancy grade wood stock and well blued steel.
I shot a Winchester M70 25-06 sporter as a varmint gun. during my teens. In grad school I shot a Wby Varmintmaster 224 Wby. Because my aesthetic tastes haven't changed that much over the years, what a consider to be NICE(!) rifles are custom Weatherbys and Winchester Model 70s in SuperGrade French walnut.
People's aesthetic tastes are personal to them, so I don't expect anyone else's to match mine. But the difference to me is that a nice rifle is an excellent, highly functional piece, whereas a NICE(!) rifle is all that, but also stirs your soul - sort of like a Ferrari sports car or a Colnago racing bike.
But for a rifle to be "NICE!" I think it also has to meet a high level of aesthetic value. To me that means all the prerequisites of a nice rifle, but also one that is built with a fancy grade wood stock and well blued steel.
I shot a Winchester M70 25-06 sporter as a varmint gun. during my teens. In grad school I shot a Wby Varmintmaster 224 Wby. Because my aesthetic tastes haven't changed that much over the years, what a consider to be NICE(!) rifles are custom Weatherbys and Winchester Model 70s in SuperGrade French walnut.
People's aesthetic tastes are personal to them, so I don't expect anyone else's to match mine. But the difference to me is that a nice rifle is an excellent, highly functional piece, whereas a NICE(!) rifle is all that, but also stirs your soul - sort of like a Ferrari sports car or a Colnago racing bike.
Alex Wheeler post. Fresh build, a little different, maple Deep Creek tracker. This is a "nice rifle!"
DirtySteve
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My definition of a "nice rifle"... An accurate rifle of any caliber suited for an intended task. Looks are secondary... Like Craig Cameron told me, "A good horse is never a bad color."
X2 for me. Anything that has AR or "tactical" attached to it I would hardly consider it "Nice". Utilitarian maybe but not "Nice".
If it ain’t rocking a custom action and a manners stock, it ain’t nice. How’s that for an opinion? 
Shooter13
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Me either! I do sometimes when I fall down.........but that is all
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