I sit back and think how close the .264 and .257 bores really are to each other and having both, wouldn't think I'd get all that excited about a heavier .257. Amazing how just a few grains heavier and few bc numbers higher will make a quarter bore shooter feel. Been a long time coming for that caliber getting a new look in performance. Sure would like to see a maximized bullet weight in the .257. I think getting into that next level of weight (140+), the 257 Weatherby and some of the bigger magnum cartridges will really gain some new owners. The 130 class works great for the standard cartridge size cases but even they will get a bump in over all performance with a heavier bullet. I see the upper 140-150 as the maximum weight bullet for the .257 but sure can't wait to see who rolls them out. My guess is Berger will be the next to take it into the 140s.
What heavy .25 bullets ?
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Quarter bore 140 grainer with a .750 BC is something like a 25 WSM or 25 PRC using the 7 PRC case would make for a pretty potent combo especially at distance.
Run the numbers through a ballistic app comparing something like a .257 140gr .750BC to .284 180gr .680BC and it definitely makes you take notice of the .257's.
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I have talked to a guy about those on another forum. I think he was running them in a 257 weatherby mag. Not sure the bc or availability. I was meaning if Berger or Hornady came out with one. Thanks for the info though.Black Hole Bullets
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I was just told .349 G7.
I tested the Hornady 134 ELD out to 1K today shooting them out of a 25 Creed.
With a 100 yard zero I needed 6.8 mils elevation correction at 1K , I also shot the Berger 135 LRHT side by side (my goto for my 25 Creed) and the Bergers impacted maybe an inch higher running at approximately the same velocity 2950 FPS.
Yards
397 1.4 Mils
601 2.9 Mils
804 4.7 Mils
1001 6.8 Mils
It was difficult to get good accuracy data due to the wind conditions, lots of wind
constantly changing direction but was able to put three into a 3" group at 600 yards
and hit a 5" plate at 1k a couple if times. All the misses were me playing poker with the wind.
The Hornady app does not list this bullet so I just used my data from shooting the 135 Bergers
and it was for the most part identical holds.
With a 100 yard zero I needed 6.8 mils elevation correction at 1K , I also shot the Berger 135 LRHT side by side (my goto for my 25 Creed) and the Bergers impacted maybe an inch higher running at approximately the same velocity 2950 FPS.
Yards
397 1.4 Mils
601 2.9 Mils
804 4.7 Mils
1001 6.8 Mils
It was difficult to get good accuracy data due to the wind conditions, lots of wind
constantly changing direction but was able to put three into a 3" group at 600 yards
and hit a 5" plate at 1k a couple if times. All the misses were me playing poker with the wind.
The Hornady app does not list this bullet so I just used my data from shooting the 135 Bergers
and it was for the most part identical holds.
That would put it on par with a 7mm,180gr Berger VLD!
I have heard that the Blackhole bullets work well on game.
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Are you referring to the 134 ELD-M or the 135 Bergers?
Either way, they're both in Hornady 4DOF
I asked the person how they came up with that number. I would like to see them verified by applied ballistics.That would put it on par with a 7mm,180gr Berger VLD!
I have heard that the Blackhole bullets work well on game.
Strange they are not in my app and I have the latest one, do you log in?
Edit: I logged in and both the 135 Berger and 134 Hornady are now available, forgot my password
so was using the app without logging in.
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Use to be a huge 25/06 fan 15-20 years ago, shot 2 barrels out, but the lack of high BC bullets back then made me go to 6mm and 6.5mms for the obvious reasons. I shot the 115 Bergers, 115g NBTs, and 125g ULD RBBTs from Wildcat.
Might have to check back into a custom 25/06 28" Bartlein 8 twist and the 134g ELDMs...
Might have to check back into a custom 25/06 28" Bartlein 8 twist and the 134g ELDMs...
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kyotek, what was your most accurate 25 cal bullet, generally?
Those 125g ULD RBBTs were the most accurate. Several sub 2" groups at 400 yards. Then the Bergers, then the Btips. Nome of them shot over 1/2 MOA, 3/4 on a bad day. All 3 great bullets. I had a couple very good shooting 25s though, so that helped. Killed a ton of dogs, couple antelope, lots of muleys/whitetails, 3 black bears, and a cow elk with those 25/06s out to 600 yards over the years. I loved the 25/06. It was the cartridge that got me started into long range shooting at 13 years old.
Killed my biggest Oregon Whitetail with the 125g Wildcats at 450 yards about 18 years ago. He went 145" 1 shot behind the shoulder and he piled up about 50 yards.
Killed my biggest Oregon Whitetail with the 125g Wildcats at 450 yards about 18 years ago. He went 145" 1 shot behind the shoulder and he piled up about 50 yards.
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Great trophy. It looks like that bullet is not made anymore? thanks for info. IS
I'm not sure if Wildcat bullets are still available or not. When I was shooting them, Richard Graves was the owner/maker out of Canada. Then I believe he sold the company or rights to a guy in Nevada. Not sure if he's still got them going or not?
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