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What happens to barrels?

When manufactures have barrels with a defect or a defect they created, what happens to these barrels?
I would think they would be destroyed, but these days I really wonder, therefore the question.
I would hate to think they were sold to the public in some unscrupulously fashion!
 
I've been inside of more than one WI barrel makes shop and the junk ones tend to sit in a barrel until they are sold for scrap.
 
Changeling said:
When manufactures have barrels with a defect or a defect they created, what happens to these barrels?
I would think they would be destroyed, but these days I really wonder, therefore the question.
I would hate to think they were sold to the public in some unscrupulously fashion!

Did you get one like that?
 
I worked in a steel mill around two 150 ton electric furnaces. We got gondola loads of scrap, guns, tools, construction equipment, and other "recyclable" items. Some of that scrap never made it to the furnace. Unless they are torched or cut in to small pieces, I'm sure some of those scrap barrels make their way in to the market somewhere.
 
There are three kinds of barrel maker. 1. Makes the best product that he knows how and would not sell anything he would no be proud of, the highest quality materials, tooling, stress relieving, and hand lapping, a true "Custom Barrel". . 2. The second makes OEM or OEM replacement barrels they work but want set the world on fire. They meet a general spec. Usually minimally stress relieved and hand lapped. 3. The third makes a OEM or OEM replacement and the materials and quality control are minimal, and no hand lapping.

In other words you get what you pay for.
Nat Lambeth
 
Changeling said:
When manufactures have barrels with a defect or a defect they created, what happens to these barrels?
I would think they would be destroyed, but these days I really wonder, therefore the question.
I would hate to think they were sold to the public in some unscrupulously fashion!

When I talked to the guys at Shilen, they told me the barrels which don't quite measure up to the very best barrels are sold as "match" barrels. Those with the best measurements are sold as "select match". Are the "match" versions defective? Not at all. "Less than absolutely perfect" is not the same as "defective".

Based on their good reputation, I suspect that the Shilen "match" barrels are vary good indeed even if they aren't quite as perfect as their "select match" versions. I certainly don't think you have to worry about them being sold in an unscrupulous fashion.

It should come as no surprise that cheap barrels aren't as good as expensive barrels. That's the way the free market works........... for the most part. Furthermore, a bargain barrel from a low-end company may not pass the kind of final inspection some of the top-of-the-line companies use. That doesn't make it "defective", does it?

I haven't heard of defective barrels being released for sale by any of the big name companies or even by some guy working out of the living room of his trailer home. Have you?
 
A question for you gunsmiths. What do you guys do with old shot out barrels? How many tomato stakes can you use? I know one "Smith" that turns them down on the lathe and uses them for pillars when he beds hunting rifles.
 
jr600yd said:
A question for you gunsmiths. What do you guys do with old shot out barrels? How many tomato stakes can you use? I know one "Smith" that turns them down on the lathe and uses them for pillars when he beds hunting rifles.

Most of us have used old barrels to make tools and dies for years. Some are even rebored and rifled.
 
No Butch I didn't get one. It just became a question when a couple of us were talking and I just plain didn't know. Therefore the question posted here.
 
....and all calibers are made with same care or those commonly used in competition have a extra care? (6mm, 308...)
 
We usually use bad blanks to make muzzle brakes.
Sometimes they can be drilled to a larger caliber, like to a shotgun gauge.

Mark
 
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=504976916

Please read the link description closely
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The above link is what I am talking about (one of the things) how would you like to receive this in the mail?
Never taken out of the plastic, never rifled, look at the end of the barrel picture, how would anyone even know if it was a Lilja. Of course everyone's gunsmith rifles barrels, LOL.

This is so bad it's an insult, but someone somewhere will buy it probably :o
 
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The guy's not to be believed ....it's a 30 cal 10" twist 4 groove barrel..... [Edited]
 
back in the 1970s we joked that when Remington made a bad barrel, they left it behind the shop in a barrel, where Winchester would pick them up, and when they had used some, they would bury the rest in the back lot, where Savage would dig them up, and then when they had used what they could, they would toss them in the sea, where Ruger would pluck them out and use them all....

Or so it seemed at the time in the factory barrel world.

Snert
 
depends on condition of the used barrels like butch said they make great dies etc If they are long enough they can be st back.
 

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