What happened to the 6 ARC?
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Bat Rastard
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A friend of mine just bought one. He can't find ammo.
As for me, I had just ordered a reamer for 6 Grendel when they came out with 6ARC, Had they done it 6 months earlier, I would have went ARC.
As for me, I had just ordered a reamer for 6 Grendel when they came out with 6ARC, Had they done it 6 months earlier, I would have went ARC.
JEFFPPC
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Never seen a mass produced 6br, few 6ppc and no mass factory ammo, now the 6 ARC.........shoes the lack of knowledge in the industry and among shooters/hunters that it must be big. The biggest failure in my mind was Remington and the 6br. The had the platform with the 700 Varmint and the ammo production. How did that play out Remington ? One of many poor decisions.
I have one built using a cheap barrel which shoots fair for a gas gun but been waiting on another high end barrel for going on 8 months now. Production ammo is impossible to find, brass is the same way. I have been making my own brass from 6.5 Grendel brass which has also been scarce. Then there is the issue of the design and the bolt head which is being discussed in another thread here
Are we talking about the 6BR Norma? It is THE dominant case and parent case in bench rest shooting. Savage makes (or at least did make) factory rifles in that cartridge. Laupua and Norma make brass and Laupa makes factory ammo. If we're not talking about the BR Norma, then never mind.
LVLAaron
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Dusty Stevens
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They brought the arc out during a shortage. It wont take off until components are readily available
JEFFPPC
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You are correct Savage does make a good shooting heavy barrel rifle but is lacking a bit in the trigger. Everyone else has ignored it. Kudos to Savage only. Yes it is the parent case for many Long range cartridges but as far as short range it is the 6ppc, parent case 220 Russian. My point is the factory for the most part have ignored our part of the market and denied for the most part varmint hunters some great cartridges.
As mentioned, ammo hard to find. My buddy had an AR built with top shelf stuff and a Proof barrel. I am no big fan of AR's for this type of work and I have to admit, it impressed me. He was ringing steel out to 800 with an 8x scope and a heavy duplex reticle. Shooting a know your limit target at 450yds from 10" down to 4" was boring.
jmkasza
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Exactly my thoughts. It's been stalled by lack of ammo and components since it was officially introduced. Hard to say if it can survive the delay as we consumers are a fickle bunch. I bought one in a bolt gun six months ago and have found ammo in person twice. I can't imagine most folks would do the same until ammo is on the shelves again.
jmkasza
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I found the Hornady Match ammo locally for less than online. $30/box seems ok at this point. Hope to see brass for sale soon.
New rounds for gas guns really need solid factory support.
With a bolt gun we can baby a handful of brass, even brass we had to form and prep, into a lot of shooting. It's a different game when your gun is tossing your brass around and sometimes dinging it up a bit. Much harder to nurse 60 pieces of brass in a gas gun, at least for me it is.
I haven't seen any locally in the few months I've been looking, and ammoseek had some pricey stuff except nothing at all is showing now. If I didn't already have brass and dies the upper would be useless to me.
That said, it's a good round as are other 6mm AR options and I hope it finds a foothold and other ammunition makers pick up the round. If not, the ARC upper will become a 6.5 Grendel.
With a bolt gun we can baby a handful of brass, even brass we had to form and prep, into a lot of shooting. It's a different game when your gun is tossing your brass around and sometimes dinging it up a bit. Much harder to nurse 60 pieces of brass in a gas gun, at least for me it is.
I haven't seen any locally in the few months I've been looking, and ammoseek had some pricey stuff except nothing at all is showing now. If I didn't already have brass and dies the upper would be useless to me.
That said, it's a good round as are other 6mm AR options and I hope it finds a foothold and other ammunition makers pick up the round. If not, the ARC upper will become a 6.5 Grendel.
Its hard to sell rifles you can not get ammo for. Unlike i suspect 95% of the folks on this form, most folks dont hand load. No Ammo... no gun sales... no going out to shoot said rifle.
Potato.. If you can find some Grendal cases you can just neck them down for the mean time and get started on your project. I have shot a 40 Deg shoulder of the 6 ARC case for many years and have now moved onto the a 22 cal versoin of it. Its no problem necking Grendal brass down.
Potato.. If you can find some Grendal cases you can just neck them down for the mean time and get started on your project. I have shot a 40 Deg shoulder of the 6 ARC case for many years and have now moved onto the a 22 cal versoin of it. Its no problem necking Grendal brass down.
IMHO 6.5 Grendel has done well working at lower pressures with some extra precautions with materials & heat treat treat. Those same precautions are being applied to the 6mm ARC. To be quite honest I am not much of a fan AR rifles personally. Not that I take issue with those who do have more appreciation for the semi auto offerings.
If it was not for the AR application, Neither the Grendel or the ARC Would have reached SAMI approval. I am very glad to have had the opportunity to work with both the Grendel & the Arc with a CZ527 chambered in these 6.5 & 6mm chambering's.
Reloaded ammo for bolt action rifles is the only way I am apreciating either 6mm ARC & or the Grendel. I am a bit of a rare individual that enjoys doing the fire forming thing. So converting 220 Russian I 6.5 Grendel to 6mm ARC has been almost a natural thing for me to do.
Last year I made 6mm ARC my deer rifle & had the opportunity to take my nicest buck to date at 254 yards. Opted for the high shoulder Brachial plexus Shot. Never Have I seen a deer expire any quicker.
I have wanted a fast twist 6mm PPC for years. 6mm ARC has done well at satisfying or scratching that itch.
If it was not for the AR application, Neither the Grendel or the ARC Would have reached SAMI approval. I am very glad to have had the opportunity to work with both the Grendel & the Arc with a CZ527 chambered in these 6.5 & 6mm chambering's.
Reloaded ammo for bolt action rifles is the only way I am apreciating either 6mm ARC & or the Grendel. I am a bit of a rare individual that enjoys doing the fire forming thing. So converting 220 Russian I 6.5 Grendel to 6mm ARC has been almost a natural thing for me to do.
Last year I made 6mm ARC my deer rifle & had the opportunity to take my nicest buck to date at 254 yards. Opted for the high shoulder Brachial plexus Shot. Never Have I seen a deer expire any quicker.
I have wanted a fast twist 6mm PPC for years. 6mm ARC has done well at satisfying or scratching that itch.
If anyone wants the best of both world in PPC cases for AR's or Bolt gun stick to the 6mm grendel...
Don't know why someone would choose any other!.
Brass it's easy to find and or make....6.5 grendel or 220 Russian.
Load and shoot.
Don't know why someone would choose any other!.
Brass it's easy to find and or make....6.5 grendel or 220 Russian.
Load and shoot.
That's what I shoot. I've been in the 6mmAR game for 4 or 5 years now. Luckily I stocked up on 6.5G brass when I first got started!
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