What Happened To Our Founding Fathers

[Louisiana Shooter]

The outcome of this battle has not yet been laid down. We are at war from within and there is much going on that we don't hear about or know of.

What we can do is to pray to God and support those that are fighting the battle how ever we can. We have great strength in numbers. The other side claim to be stronger in numbers, but we know from their lies that they more often speak the opposite of truth. There power is in keeping us at odds with each other, between race, religion and humanity.

We are strong and they will lose, we must keep our faith and not allow them to separate us.

God Bless our America, our God and our People.

I would like to add one more thing if I may...........

IF THEY ATTACK ONE OF US, THEY ATTACK ALL OF US. This is going to have to be enforced at the local level first. The escalated if necessary. And we should fight as our forefathers did.....with everything we have.

Otherwise, they'll pick us off one at a time until there is no one left.

 

[338 Mollett]

I love the sentiment !! But we are an angry mosquito yelling at a herd of Elephants !And as far as the Jan. 6 protesters I guarantee not many would have gone there knowing how unconstitutionally they would be treated,or left to rot by the "Republican Party ". Another question ,How many quick reaction forces have been organized and put into action getting those people out ?

 

[Twicepop]

Those brave souls put it all on the line, and in the end most endured unimaginable hardships for their act of bravery. That selfless act of bravery made it possible for us to live as free men today. Think any of the bloodsucking vermin that masquerade as representative of the people would do the same for us now?

 

[338 dude]

 

[D-4297]

I wonder ; at what point , what singular action will be required for US to stand up, individually , and collectively , and say , "ENOUGH is ENOUGH ! What will it take for US to do as our Forebearers , and take up arms , to protect OUR FREEDOMS and LIBERTIES ? This is a conversation WE should all be having with Ourselves , as that decision could come sooner than we expect . WHAT WILL IT TAKE , FOR EACH OF US TO BE COUNTED AS A PATRIOT ?

 

[R.Morehouse]

Our 2A can't protect us against a tyrannical government anymore. It could when it was written and for quite a while after that. Not, when they want to come knocking it can be with a literal flock of armed hovering drones controlled by some zit faced geek from some undisclosed location........what are you going to do?? Readiness these days is for civil unrest due to food/ fuel shortages etc. But so far as facing off against the government goes......Yeah Right.......I agree with the sentiment that our armed forces wouldn't take up arms against the citizenry ............They wouldn't have to.................Happy 4th of July.

Regards
Rick

 

[jackson1]

Papa Charlie, I can't that you enough for your post. It is very humbling to read the accounts of signer's lives' during the Revolutionary War. Don't see much white privilege. Every American should want to read this account and be thankful for what we have and what we should be. Again Papa Charlie, one of the most influential things I have ever read here.

 

[6.5 forever]

I learn everyday on this site. Thank you for these educational posts. GOD BLESS THE USA.

 

[Bill K]

Sad that today's leader in so many countries, don't have the honor and fortitude of the Founding Fathers.
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[bobinpa]

The Founding fathers were men that based life on principals.... now it's a hooray for me world where people give up their principals to increase their bank account! It's truly disgusting to watch how easily people hand over the freedom that was paid for in blood, in order to keep a job or feel safe.

 

[jdh47]

I think we still have plenty of brave people but the logistics have changed dramatically. Our founding fathers were fighting an oppressive foreign government that had not had time enough or the energy to grow tentacles' in our homeland.
Today we are fighting a far different enemy. "Fundamental" opinions on governance have put our population at odds with one another. Our Constitution has been largely abandoned and our laws no longer apply to all citizens. Our government has been captured by avarice and corruption. The Founders warned against that but money and power is a powerful motive for corruption.
Our election was stolen and it is proven with mountains of evidence and testimony that has never been allowed to be discovered. The states that were stolen in order to seat this regime have abdicated their duty to right the horrific wrong. We no longer have two parties but mostly one uniparty with different factions.
Today we have communications other generations could only dream about but they are not by any means secure. Thanks to government overreach our every word is known by some government official or contractor.
We have much to be thankful for. Through the years far too many of our heroic brothers and sisters have died protecting this nation to let it fall to Marxism. This administration cannot last as it stands. But we have much work to do to convince our fellow citizens to vote out the culprits that have inhabited the halls of Congress and government agencies that have defamed our nation and persecuted our fellow citizens.

 

[timeout]

It seems to me that under the circumstances the best solution would be for a secession of Red States. The Red States would thrive and the blue states will be murder and chaos. When they run out of other people's money and food they may finally figure out the facts of life? Naw, no chance of that!

 

[Papa Charlie]

History claims that only about 1/3rd of the Colonists population supported the American Revolution. While the other 2/3rds were either against or non committal.

The British were very well established in the New World, they had fought the French around 1756. Their troops were well trained, well bloodied and well equipped. While the Revolutionists were not, although many had fought along side the British against the French

I also don't beleive that people have more to loose now then they did then. I believe as then, that to do nothing would result in far more loss to the Colonists.

To say that things are different today than then, I don't think the numbers support that it is worse, instead I would think that the numbers are in our favor.

Just my opinion.

Happy 4th of July

 

[bobinpa]

I see it like this:
Then, they had muskets and we had muskets. Pretty even.
Now, we have AR-15 with some other stuff mixed in and they have an Air Force, etc Not very even.
Then, I could lay down my plow and go to war for 6 months or however long and when I came home, it would still be there.
Now, If I left for 6 months or however long, when I got back, the bank would have foreclosed on my house and vehicles. At the very least the utilities would be shut off...

I could go on and on, but suffice to say, things are very different now. How many here could just give up their income for a year??

 

[Louisiana Shooter]

I see it like this:
Then, they had muskets and we had muskets. Pretty even.
Now, we have AR-15 with some other stuff mixed in and they have an Air Force, etc Not very even.
Then, I could lay down my plow and go to war for 6 months or however long and when I came home, it would still be there.
Now, If I left for 6 months or however long, when I got back, the bank would have foreclosed on my house and vehicles. At the very least the utilities would be shut off...

I could go on and on, but suffice to say, things are very different now. How many here could just give up their income for a year??

I don't know about that.......don't want to argue about it but many lost everything during the revolutionary war. Their property burnt or further destroyed. Entire families on the run during the entire war. The signers were all wanted by the crown and were hung if captured.

There was MUCH loss in order to gain our freedom. Some obviously paid the ultimate price but many lost their fortunes and property. Families were divided, some for the crown, some for independence.....

Like anything of value ----- how much a person is willing to pay......is how much it is actually valued.

 

[Louisiana Shooter]

As far as logistics go, there are ways to accomplish what needs to be done. The real question is, are we willing to do what needs to be done. Elections aren't going to do anything anymore. Neither side will believe they are legit from now on.

Again - what's true freedom worth to you on an individual basis? Then, are there enough other like minded individuals to make it happen?...........gonna have to be millions ready and willing, not just a handful.

That's the question. So far........at this point.....the answer in no, there isn't nearly enough willing to do what it takes......YET. What line must be crossed before that happens? I don't know.

It makes me wonder what the founding fathers would do if they lived today in our modern society..........I think I already know.

 

[bobinpa]

I don't know about that.......don't want to argue about it but many lost everything during the revolutionary war. Their property burnt or further destroyed. Entire families on the run during the entire war. The signers were all wanted by the crown and were hung if captured.

There was MUCH loss in order to gain our freedom. Some obviously paid the ultimate price but many lost their fortunes and property. Families were divided, some for the crown, some for independence.....

Like anything of value ----- how much a person is willing to pay......is how much it is actually valued.

I agree 100%. All I meant was that it wouldn't be as fair of a fight... And life is lived much differently as it was then. If something were to take place today, we would be at big disadvantage to begin with.

 

[Papa Charlie]

I wonder if it were to happen today, would it be more like the Revolutionary War where the Colonists had to build an Army and help support it with a Militia or would it be more like the Civil War where the military were to split and Militia's would support the various factions?

In both wars, people lost much, maybe as much as we would today. Of course I hope that this will never be the case in our country.

 

[Louisiana Shooter]

I agree 100%. All I meant was that it wouldn't be as fair of a fight... And life is lived much differently as it was then. If something were to take place today, we would be at big disadvantage to begin with.

There was a war game scenario played out sometime during the Obummer admin....of all things they called it the Blue against the Red. They found that nearly all boots on the ground (botg) troops would side with the Red (right) side but the political officer class would side with the Blue (left). Like wise with the law enforcement communities.

They found that there would be mass desertions from the military to the point of making it worthless. Those desertions would also take the fire power with them......the time of fire power that would be useful for that type of warfare (guerrilla). Many who did not desert ended up being spies for the Red.

The actual war didn't last long, nor would there be much outside influence due to the repercussions of those actions. The whole world would fall into chaos because the thing that kept everything stable is now unstable its self.......The USA.

The first major infrastructure casualty was the power grid. It went down everywhere. Immediately following were water supplies. Anything even remotely related to modern systems was disabled. No power or water systems. They found that rural areas would be the least affected but the cities would be in serious trouble. Highways came to a halt as piracy took over the supply chains. All transportation would end except that used for warfare - guerrilla and otherwise.

The actual time frame it would last depended on how much damage the Red wanted to do and how fast they did it. In the scenario, the Red surrounded several Blue cities and put them under siege. Nothing/no one in - nothing/no one out. Just let time do the rest. In this case, it lasted a few months. The less willing the Red was to do things, the longer the war lasted.

 

[Papa Charlie]

That is interesting.