Well, I guess this Mauser isn't getting a new barrel

[DGP4]

Well have at it bub! Nobody is saying you can't do it. Enjoy your old junker Mausers until your heart is content. No skin off my back. But you'll never change my mind into thinking they are better or even equal to more modern action designs. Simple fact is, they are not and never will be.

It's like a man trying to identify as a woman. I'll never buy it no matter what those people say.

Wow! Just wow.

 

[Jonnyofalltrades]

Well have at it bub! Nobody is saying you can't do it. Enjoy your old junker Mausers until your heart is content. No skin off my back. But you'll never change my mind into thinking they are better or even equal to more modern action designs. Simple fact is, they are not and never will be.

It's like a man trying to identify as a woman. I'll never buy it no matter what those people say.

Many of the more modern actions are the way they are for ease of manufacturing.
Can you really try to say that a Remington cocking piece attached to a firing pin with a roll pin is superior to the method that Peter Mauser chose for his firing pin/cocking piece? Can you completely strip most modern bolts without tools?
Newer isn't always better, no more than older is always better. But older will always have something newer can't; romance and history.
I love the new actions, but they're pretty 2 dimensional in that regard.

 

[Dimner]

Well have at it bub! Nobody is saying you can't do it. Enjoy your old junker Mausers until your heart is content. No skin off my back. But you'll never change my mind into thinking they are better or even equal to more modern action designs. Simple fact is, they are not and never will be.

It's like a man trying to identify as a woman. I'll never buy it no matter what those people say.

I'm pretty sure we are not talking apples to apples here.

 

[Old Navy]

I did a complete Mauser project just for the fun of it. I wasn’t particularly concerned about the “cost” of it, I wanted to build a rifle based on a vintage action.
Of course, i did not have to pay a gunsmith to put it all together, and I stayed within the pressure limits of what these actions were designed to handle., that being a 280 Remington at around 50,000 psi with 140 grn bullets.

But you are correct. If your sole aim is to build a rifle that can take advantage of all of the more modern cartridge designs and velocity capabilities with a wide range of bullets, building a rifle based on a old military action makes about as much sense as taking an old junked out ‘67 Chevelle and spending enough money on it to put the kids, and grandkids, through college.

Oh but if it was an SS 396 it would be fun to drive down main street on Sat. night.

 

[Bc'z]

Oh but if it was an SS 396 it would be fun to drive down main street on Sat. night.

Yes it would, but a 340 six pack is cooler, specially tucked in a Cuda.

 

[boltfluter]

A friend has one of the older Ruger Mk2 rifles originally chambered in .223. It literally took both of us at once to bed the damn thing with that angled recoil lug. A few choice words were uttered that day. He rebarreled it with a nice Pac-nor Supermatch barrel chambered in .20 VarTarg. Damn thing would shoot in the 1's with H4198 and a Berger 32 gr bullet. If I had not been there in person, at the range, I would never have believed it ! So, while a pain to work with, the angled recoil was not all bad. Lol. Good times, and great memories with a friend.
Paul

 

[Old Navy]

Yes it would, but a 340 six pack is cooler, specially tucked in a Cuda.

When I got out of the Navy in 67 I was trained to do front end alignments and brake work. Every hot rod I aligned I drove including a Cuda. The most bass a## was a 67 435 HP Vette. The state police at the time were driving 360 HP Dodges with a beefed up suspension. Drove several to test them @100 mph. No problem with the sergeant that dropped them off but he did not like me running the siren and red lights. Thought I was going to jail on that one. LOL

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Yes it would, but a 340 six pack is cooler, specially tucked in a Cuda.

John Wick drove a 71 Cuda in Part 4. Doesn't get any cooler than that

 

[Fast14riot]

Mausers are cool, just like the model T is in hot rod circles. Myself, I have tang safety 77 and 1917 sporter (among other vintage actions). The 1917 is built like a fallout shelter, and just about as strong. Light, it is not. But, with a couple basic mods its a solid action to build some big boomers on and have reliable function just like the Mausers its based on, or even just kept in "caliber 30" as designed. Hell, my daily driver truck I've owned and driven for the past 20 years has a 350sbc engine in it. Sometimes things just work, maybe not the fastest, smoothest, bestest, but damn good still.

 

[Sniperhandle]

Mausers are cool, just like the model T is in hot rod circles. Myself, I have tang safety 77 and 1917 sporter (among other vintage actions). The 1917 is built like a fallout shelter, and just about as strong. Light, it is not. But, with a couple basic mods its a solid action to build some big boomers on and have reliable function just like the Mausers its based on, or even just kept in "caliber 30" as designed. Hell, my daily driver truck I've owned and driven for the past 20 years has a 350sbc engine in it. Sometimes things just work, maybe not the fastest, smoothest, bestest, but damn good still.

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Very Nice Enfield, I have a couple I am working on.

 

[Uncle Grinch]

Everybody has their opinion. I’m old and narrow minded, I like steel and wood… and Mausers. Everything else is a cheaper version of the original.
Now that’s my opinion!

 

[Uncle Grinch]

My latest old junk Mauser…

 

[pintopete]

My latest old junk Mauser…

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Junk...LOL That is a beautiful rifle IMO. Like yourself, I too enjoy Mausers. Pretty amazing and ingenious especially considering when they were designed and manufactured, 1880's - 1890's and so on.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Junk...LOL That is a beautiful rifle IMO. Like yourself, I too enjoy Mausers. Pretty amazing and ingenious especially considering when they were designed and manufactured, 1880's - 1890's and so on.

When I did my Mauser project, (1908 pattern, probably built in the 1920’s), I went all out and “trued” the action threads and face to the bolt way. The main reason I did it was I wanted to seat the barrel against the inner ring and action face. I even cut the tenon thread to the correct 55 degree thread.

Truth is, it did not need it. I was rather amazed at how true all of the critical machined surfaces ran with each other. It shoots great.

I just Bought A Project……Opinions

I have been wanting to build a “classic” Mauser hunting rifle for some time. I guess I am trying to relive my youth, as the very first custom I ever built back in the ‘70’s was based on a commercial Santa Barbara Mauser. So this action has been in our classifieds for some time. I know it is as...

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[Will Henry]

The thing about Mausers is, the more you look at them, the more you have to admire many of their features. They are rugged and robust. The extraction system, where the groove in the bolt head is undercut and the extractor actually forced inward the harder you pull. The ability to change a firing pin with no tools. The shoulder inside the bolt which prevents the rifle from firing if the pin should happen to break before the bolt is turned down. The simply designed bolt stop/ejector which virtually never fails. A gas venting system which protects the shooter. The enlarged portion of the bolt, at the rear, to reduce the slope of the cocking cam and ease bolt lift. These are just some of the little things that make them kind of special.
While they are not an accuracy action, they aren't that bad. I ever never seen a Mauser actioned rifle which would agg in the twos, but I have seen one agg in the high threes to low fours.
By the way, the ultimate Mauser derived target rifle action, would have to be the Musgrave single shot action. I had always intended to build a serious BR rifle on one, just to see, but never got around to it. WH

 

[Greg@wfcustom]

Yes it would, but a 340 six pack is cooler, specially tucked in a Cuda.

You should swing by my place when your down here for the Nats and check out my AAR that is @ 7 years deep into a full resto ( I work slowly, cars are secondary to shooting) Of course right now it’s a stripped shell on a rotisserie in grey primer but someday it will be Rally Red again

 

[mauser284]

Can't believe people are still wanting to use those old Mausers. Ends up costing more in the end to make them half way decent, and even then, they are still far weaker and less accurate than any of the current cheap factory actions. If I was smithing for customers, I wouldn't touch one for liability reasons

I have 3 Mausers that shoot at least as well as a factory stock Remington 700 and none of them cost me more than $149 and most where under $100 each. Show me where I can get a modern action not even including barrel, sights, stock for under $100?

Show me any other $149 or less controled round feed action and forged action and bolt?

What is that crickets? That is right you can not find anyting like that.

Show me a rifle today at or bellow $200 that comes with steel bottom metal that can hammer 16 penny nails into a 2x4? I think I hear silence again!

One of my Mausers cost me $50 from a barrel full of Mausers at a gas station in Howel Michigan not more than 26 year ago. I think I have put around 20 deer in the freezer with that rifle alone!

Do you have any idea how many animals in the USA, Europe, and Africa has died at the hands of a Mauser bolt action rifle?

 

[msalm]

Last summer I bid on and won a nice old ‘sporterized’ Mauser. The sporterizing consisted of shortening the barrel and forearm wood and re-installing a front sight. Receiver was unmolested and was stamped BRNO on the top ring, pre-war too. The machining and finish on that receiver is top notch and it cycles sooo smoothly, quality all the way. Say what you will, but if you can’t appreciate the quality of the better examples of these rifles, you’re missing a bit of soul. With this rifle I’m planning a classic English express rifle vibe in 9.3x62. Have the reamer, brass, unturned barrel blank, some excellent Turkish and Australian walnut blanks, bullets and dies…just need the time. Rust blued steel, beautiful walnut, express style open sights, and I’m going to enjoy every minute of walking the woods with that rifle in my hands…just my thoughts.

 

[Sniperhandle]

Last summer I bid on and won a nice old ‘sporterized’ Mauser. The sporterizing consisted of shortening the barrel and forearm wood and re-installing a front sight. Receiver was unmolested and was stamped BRNO on the top ring, pre-war too. The machining and finish on that receiver is top notch and it cycles sooo smoothly, quality all the way. Say what you will, but if you can’t appreciate the quality of the better examples of these rifles, you’re missing a bit of soul. With this rifle I’m planning a classic English express rifle vibe in 9.3x62. Have the reamer, brass, unturned barrel blank, some excellent Turkish and Australian walnut blanks, bullets and dies…just need the time. Rust blued steel, beautiful walnut, express style open sights, and I’m going to enjoy every minute of walking the woods with that rifle in my hands…just my thoughts.

The BRNO Mauser's are sought after by custom builders because the craftsmanship was very good on them as well as the metallurgy. The Mauser is the design all modern bolt guns have emulated and descended from. Just because something is old doesn't mean it's no longer relevant.

Good luck with your project, Sounds like you are off to a good start on a beautiful rifle that will be used well into the future and hopefully passed on.

 

[Daddycaddie67]

Can't believe people are still wanting to use those old Mausers. Ends up costing more in the end to make them half way decent, and even then, they are still far weaker and less accurate than any of the current cheap factory actions. If I was smithing for customers, I wouldn't touch one for liability reasons

Yeah, but it wouldn’t be as cool. Things don’t always have to make sense. E