Vudoo V22 finding the best ammo

[garandman]

I'd recommend the 6 x 5 method for testing 22rf... 6 groups of 5 shots each.

There are very few universals when shooting 22rf. What is right for some one elses gun may not work for yours.

For instance... some of my best groups have happened when I change ammo brands. Others need to clean / re- season when changing ammo brands. YMMV.

 

[garandman]

Jbell said....

Here is how it will go between ammo brands (so you don't get a false impression of a specific ammo that you may think is more accurate than it is): shoot brand x for a while and then switch to brand y, the 1st 4 to 6 rounds of brand y will more than likely be a screamer of a group (which is what I am talking about getting a false impression of how the ammo may actually shoot), the next 5-8 rounds will be pretty erratic (the POI will start shifting around some), then somewhere around 15ish rounds it will settle in and start shooting consistent groups.

Ive seen this happen in my gun.

 

[Stepsjframe]

I have been testing the cheaper ammo to compare accuracy vs price and acceptable accuracy for shooting the ELR 22 matches to 300 yards as the targets at 300 are never smaller then 10 inches. So im nailing my high dollar ammo, and a acceptable low dollar ammo as well
But of the testing I have done 85% of the ammo I have shot has all shot 1/2 inch or less at 50 yards

 

[USMCDOC]

thanks a the ammo suggestions The problem is I am in Calif and I have to shoot what I can find at local gun shops. I will make a list and see what I cam find or request a dealer to order.

what you need to do is run over to AZ to the Lapua testing center, find some really good shooting ammo.. buy it and take it home

 

[missed]

I'm going to go to the Eley test range in Winters Texas this fall for lot testing on mine.

 

[BIG D]

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I did some ammo testing yesterday for my new Vudoo 22lr I found some Wolf Match Target too and added it to the mix. test done at 50 yards 5 shoot groups. I will be doing some more testing I like the Seller & Bellot, Lapua Center-X, SK Biathlon sport and SK Rifle Match.

My V22 will shoot like this at 100 with bipod and rear bag. I’m happy as a pig in poop with this thing. It’s an ace kuhkri barrel.

 

[garandman]

In the video I posted, the Vudoo mechanic said the rifle is designed around the Lapua / SK family of ammo, tho Eley and others will shoot well too. My Lilja 457 seems to like Tenex, but I got a buncha Lapua / SK product waiting on the Vudoo I ordered.

 

[garandman]

what you need to do is run over to AZ to the Lapua testing center, find some really good shooting ammo.. buy it and take it home

"Ding! " We have a winner.

 

[willbas]

what you need to do is run over to AZ to the Lapua testing center, find some really good shooting ammo.. buy it and take it home

Might work but I think you have to mail to Calif FFL to do background

 

[USMCDOC]

"Ding! " We have a winner.

 

[USMCDOC]

Might work but I think you have to mail to Calif FFL to do background

 

[garandman]

Out of state ammo purchases....

"Don't ask, don't tell."

 

[Ned Ludd]

My barrel is a Benchmark 3 groove installed by my gunsmith.

Bill - I had a 3-groove Benchmark installed on a CZ-455 Varmint Precision Trainer, which was chambered with the Lilja match reamer. It shoots very well. After the re-barrel, I tested quite a variety of different rimfire match ammo and Eley Tenex came out to be the best.

At that point, I purchased ten boxes (10 different Lots) via Killough Shooting Sports with the following criteria: 1) the manufacturer's velocity number on each successive Lot was listed at approximately 6-8 fps faster than the previous Lot. 8 of the 10 Lots actually chrono'd very close to the manufacturer's box value. In that way, I was able to cover a velocity range of approximately 1050 to 1100 fps. I then shot 4 x 5-shot groups with each Lot at an indoor 50 yd range. One Lot was the clear winner, although I don't know whether it was the specific muzzle velocity of that Lot, or the fact that it had the lowest ES by quite a bit among the Lots I tested.
2) For each of the Lots I chose, Killough's had quite a bit in stock, as I knew it would take a few days to get it tested. I eventually ordered several bricks of the one ammo that clearly tested the best.

The bottom line is that if living in Kalifornia is preventing you from doing similar Lot testing of a single specific type of ammo, chances are that you will be leaving something on the table in terms of finding the best ammo for your rifle. If you are not willing or able to have a Kalifornia store special-order exactly what you want, or drive to another state and buy it yourself, you might consider going to a test center and have them do the same thing in a much more rigorous and inclusive manner. As has been mentioned above, there is just such a Lapua test facility in Mesa, AZ:

https://www.lapua.com/resources/test-shooting/

I believe Eley also has such test centers, as well as mobile test centers, if you're interested in looking into that approach. I really think that is about the best you can do to have a rifle tested by the folks that actually make the ammo in their test facility.

 

[willbas]

I went with SK Rifle match 5 shots at 50 yards

 

[Rob01]

Center X works great too. Ten shots on left and 8 on right at 50.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Bill - I had a 3-groove Benchmark installed on a CZ-455 Varmint Precision Trainer, which was chambered with the Lilja match reamer. It shoots very well. After the re-barrel, I tested quite a variety of different rimfire match ammo and Eley Tenex came out to be the best.

At that point, I purchased ten boxes (10 different Lots) via Killough Shooting Sports with the following criteria: 1) the manufacturer's velocity number on each successive Lot was listed at approximately 6-8 fps faster than the previous Lot. 8 of the 10 Lots actually chrono'd very close to the manufacturer's box value. In that way, I was able to cover a velocity range of approximately 1050 to 1100 fps. I then shot 4 x 5-shot groups with each Lot at an indoor 50 yd range. One Lot was the clear winner, although I don't know whether it was the specific muzzle velocity of that Lot, or the fact that it had the lowest ES by quite a bit among the Lots I tested.
2) For each of the Lots I chose, Killough's had quite a bit in stock, as I knew it would take a few days to get it tested. I eventually ordered several bricks of the one ammo that clearly tested the best.

The bottom line is that if living in Kalifornia is preventing you from doing similar Lot testing of a single specific type of ammo, chances are that you will be leaving something on the table in terms of finding the best ammo for your rifle. If you are not willing or able to have a Kalifornia store special-order exactly what you want, or drive to another state and buy it yourself, you might consider going to a test center and have them do the same thing in a much more rigorous and inclusive manner. As has been mentioned above, there is just such a Lapua test facility in Mesa, AZ:

https://www.lapua.com/resources/test-shooting/

I believe Eley also has such test centers, as well as mobile test centers, if you're interested in looking into that approach. I really think that is about the best you can do to have a rifle tested by the folks that actually make the ammo in their test facility.

Going to Lapua would have been a good idea a few years ago, as you could get the lots you tested there, and drive home with it.
now everything is shipped from their warehouse in MO. only thing they have at Mesa (until it is gone) is SK
Note:You use a Lapua dealer to make the actual purchase and send payment to, Lapua then invoices them for the ammo.

Lee

 

[Delfuego]

Lapua tests it for you, then they put you in contact with a reseller that will get it for you. They don't sell direct to you and cut out their dealers. It's more of a "drop ship" through the dealer if I understand correctly. I spoke with Lester Bruno and he said go to Lapua, let him know and he will get you what you want. I should know firsthand how it works in a few weeks or a month.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

Lapua tests it for you, then they put you in contact with a reseller that will get it for you. They don't sell direct to you and cut out their dealers. It's more of a "drop ship" through the dealer if I understand correctly. I spoke with Lester Bruno and he said go to Lapua, let him know and he will get you what you want. I should know firsthand how it works in a few weeks or a month.

That is correct, you use a dealer to make the actual purchase. I edited my reply to note this.
are you testing a BR rifle? and if so you can test off a Pappas or Arnold 1-piece rest if you bring your rest.

Lee

 

[NorCalMikie]

Happened to be in Wally World so I talked to the Man behind the ammo counter. We think about the same. The ammo issue is B*** S*** but what are you gunna do. If you want ammo, you have to jump thru the hoops.
The only ammo I can't roll myself is Rimfire. I do have a couple of bricks stashed away but if I do any serious shooting, it won't take too long to shorten the stash.
Counter man says, you need two types if ID to buy ammo. Drivers license and whatever else will pass inspection. Real ID? Don't have it and probably won't be getting it. Try standing in line at the DMV. Even with an appointment, it's still a PITA!! Don't have a Pass Port or a Real ID. Don't plan on leaving the Country and I can drive to anywhere I want to go. Don't need to take a Cruise to get sick or drink bad booze in a far away land and die.
In California (where women are women and so are some of the men) most specialty ammo (for rim fire) will have to be ordered anyway so suck it up, go see your local FFL, pay the fee OR, sell all your rigs and take up basket weaving. Not much of a choice but it is what it is.
You Guys with NO RESTRICTIONS better keep that in mind when it comes time to vote. Get rid of the low life liberals that want to keep their foot on your necks.
And don't be coming to California if you don't want to dodge the homeless and human crap on the BIG city streets and needles all over the place.
The Golden Gate? I think they're referring to to the human urine running off the sidewalks into the San Francisco Bay.
Tell Nancy Pelosi to take care of HER CITY and forget about going after President Trump or we'll ship all the crapping on the streets homeless to her "Gated Community". Forget it lady, you ain't gunna get him. Find another "dead horse" to beat.

 

[garandman]

California.... "behind enemy lines" ....