Vibrashine Trickler vs. Acculab scale

[memilanuk]

I called Sinclair Internatioal yesterday to place an order for a nice new Acculab scale,on backorder, BTW), and was about to order a Vibrashine trickler as well... the fellow on the phone said they'd had a number of problems w/ the two units together; apparently people were experiencing some sort of interference,not sure if it was electro-magnetic or just vibration) where when they'd actuate the trickler it'd make the scale go nuts?!?

Anyone here experience this, or have alternate solutions for trickling to these scales,got the impression the pan is further out than most manual or electric tricklers can reach).?

Thanks,

Monte

 

[memilanuk]

BTT

Someone has to have something to say on the matter?!?

 

[SF340Driver]

I don't have a vibrashine trickler or a Acculab scale, but I do have one of the Denver Instruments MXX-123 which I believe is the same piece of equipment.

If vibration is the issue, programming the Acculab to the "Unstable Environment" setting will fix it's sensitivity to it.

I do use mine side by side with my Chargemaster and I have had no magnetic interference issues. I do have both power supplies hooked up to a Monster Cable "Clean Power" surge protector which, in my opinion, helps greatly.

 

[JamesnTN]

Monte,

I personally feel that anything that has a resolution such as the acculabs and MXX-123 should be used with a UPS so that you get clean consistent power.

On a side not I sell the MXX-123 for 255.00 shipped which is cheaper than anyone who carries these units. Acculab is a subisdery of Denver Instruments. Typically they all run about 10-14 days behind as these units are a greater success than they ever considered.
I have also requested to set the factory setting on these units for the enviroment to Very unstable.

 

[memilanuk]

I'm just trying to resolve the apparent discrepancy here... everybody here seems to think this combination is the cat's meow, nary a word of problem... but when I call Sinclair's w/ credit card in hand wanting to order both, they recommended against using the two together based on other customerers having problems. Yet not a peep of such here.

I'm wondering if it really is as simple as plugging the scale,and not the trickler into a UPS) so the scale gets,relatively) clean filtered power... though my understanding of UPS units is that depending on what kind you have,i.e. how much $$$ you spent on it), some just pass the utility AC on thru, w/ not much filtering other than catching obvious spikes and then helping w/ sags/brownouts/blackouts... which doesn't seem like it'd help much w/ bad harmonics or other 'dirty' waveforms from all the switching power supplies rampant in the modern household, while others take the AC power, and either filter it or run it thru a rectifier then a static inverter and produce 'clean' power to the load.

 

[memilanuk]

Hmmm... that's a thought. I've got a nice granite reference plate that should work pretty slick for a 'base'

 

[rstreich]

... though my understanding of UPS units is that depending on what kind you have,i.e. how much $$$ you spent on it), some just pass the utility AC on thru, w/ not much filtering other than catching obvious spikes and then helping w/ sags/brownouts/blackouts...

You're right, you really need more than a UPS, but some of the UPS units do have line conditioners in them also. At one time, the TrippLite UPSs were very good at this, but I haven't kept up with it lately. The key is to find something that not only cleans up the noise, but squares up the waveform also.

robert

 

[Magical_Merlin]

Hey Monte, I have a Vibrashine trickler and used it next to a RCBS 750 electronic scale. When I first got the vibrashine, the scale would go to zero with powder in the pan while I was trickling. There was some interference between the two. I ended up plugging the scale into a seperate outlet and the trickler into a surgebuster strip. Never had a problem after that.

BTW, I have upgraded to the Chargemaster combo and I dont need the Vibrashine anymore. If you havent bought one yet, you can have it. Let me know.

 

[tripcrow]

I’m wondering about the advice to set the MXX-123 to unstable. I tried doing that and it really slowed down the scale’s response time. While that just meant getting use to taking another second or fraction there of while measuring brass or bullets, it really slows things down while trickling powder where you need to be taking multiple readings each time.

Back on topic, I made up a crude upside down L shaped wood platform out of plywood and a cut 4x4 for my RCBS trickler & MXX-123. Used some rubbery antiskid tape on the platform to keep the weighted trickler and platform from moving around. Works OK. But the trickler is a bit too high so you’ll need a high sided pan to keep the powder from bouncing out. Saw, think it was here, where someone replaced their RCBS trickler’s powder tube with a longer piece of tubing that they ran a tap into at the end of to allow for proper powder flow. But I haven’t found the right size tubing to do that with. After all these years of using the manual RCBS, I’ve grown use to the way it trickles and would like to stay with it.